Need help deciphering 68 Parts Catalogue

[fesser]

Both of my 68 Coronets are missing a dash bezel. My R/T's dash had been previously molested by the p.o. so that came as no surprise. The 440 model, 4 door parts car however looked like it hadn't been messed with, and it too had no bezel. While looking through the 68 Parts Catalogue. I found the picture of the exploded dash panel, which clearly shows the bezel (8-37-90)...

From there I went to the section covering that number range which led me to this...

And here is where I start getting a little perplexed. There appear to be multiple numbers that could be applicable to my R/T (not counting the one for RHD). They are 2857 465, 2857 664, and 2857 665. My car was an AC car so 2857 665 seems most relevant to my application. That brings up a couple of questions.
(1) What would be the differences between the three numbers I listed above. I suspect there aren't any, but I don't understand why the need for three numbers if so.
(2) To the right of the part number are several vertical columns with either a number or a - in the column after each part number. I can't find what each of the columns, and the inserted number represents. I suspect the breakdown is in the book somewhere, but I can't find it. Below are the column headings.

I see that there is a reproduction bezel available, but I don't want to shell out the money if it is a different part (in appearance) from whatever it is I am missing. I am sure I am overthinking this, but it bugs me not understanding what I am looking at in the catalogue.
Thanks

 

[R/T Boy 67]

I see nothing there that applies to your car. There is nothing under the W1-W2 column for the bezel. Does it carry on to the next page?

 

[pnora]

What manual is that from. Does not look at all like any I have seen.Here is what my Factory Parts manual shows.

 

[pnora]

So to me 2822880 std cluster and 2857185 Rallye cluster.

 

[fesser]

I see nothing there that applies to your car. There is nothing under the W1-W2 column for the bezel. Does it carry on to the next page?

I can check when I get back to my shop. What does W1-W2 column indicate?

 

[fesser]

What manual is that from. Does not look at all like any I have seen.Here is what my Factory Parts manual shows.

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I will grab a picture of the cover when I get home. Thought it was the factory parts catalogue.

 

[ckessel]

Along with deciphering your vin/option tag, the white books by Galen Govier would be a benefit on identifying specific parts.

 

[69Bee]

Your ID info is found on page INF-3. The numbers or "-" indicate which car line it applies to, hence the "1" and the "-" means it does not.

V= Valiant
B= Barracuda
L= Dart
R= Belvedere
W= Coronet
P= Plymouth
D= Dodge
C= Chrysler, 1= Newport, 2= 300, 3= New Yorker
Y= Imperial, 1= All

V, B, L, R, W, P, D
1= 6cyl
2= V8

 

[R/T Boy 67]

All my factory manuals are laid out like the one in post 1. It could be a chrysler Canada manual, but the part numbers are all the same. I don't have a 1968 manual however, so I can't check the numbers for you.

 

[fesser]

What manual is that from. Does not look at all like any I have seen.Here is what my Factory Parts manual shows.

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This is the manual I have...

All my factory manuals are laid out like the one in post 1. It could be a chrysler Canada manual, but the part numbers are all the same. I don't have a 1968 manual however, so I can't check the numbers for you.

Bingo. Never noticed it but it is the Canadian manual.

I see nothing there that applies to your car. There is nothing under the W1-W2 column for the bezel. Does it carry on to the next page?

It does carry over to the next page, but there is nothing that matches my car on that page.

Your ID info is found on page INF-3. The numbers or "-" indicate which car line it applies to, hence the "1" and the "-" means it does not.

V= Valiant
B= Barracuda
L= Dart
R= Belvedere
W= Coronet
P= Plymouth
D= Dodge
C= Chrysler, 1= Newport, 2= 300, 3= New Yorker
Y= Imperial, 1= All

V, B, L, R, W, P, D
1= 6cyl
2= V8

Thanks for that information. In my Canadian parts manual, if I read this correctly, my car would be in the W1W2 column and since there are dashes on all of the non-rallye part numbers I guess it means it didn't come with a bezel, eh?

 

[R/T Boy 67]

Factory parts manuals are not always 100% accurate. They can sometimes be confusing with their discriptions, but they can also also leave out things. My 69 parts manual came from a dealership, and there are arrows and notations etc. all over it.

 

[R/T Boy 67]

I would like to clear up something. Is there nothing under the W1- W2 heading for a bezel at all, or is there one, but it does not mention R/T in the description?

 

[69Bee]

This is the manual I have...
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Bingo. Never noticed it but it is the Canadian manual.

It does carry over to the next page, but there is nothing that matches my car on that page.

Thanks for that information. In my Canadian parts manual, if I read this correctly, my car would be in the W1W2 column and since there are dashes on all of the non-rallye part numbers I guess it means it didn't come with a bezel, eh?

A Coronet will only have a Std cluster, and the SuperBee and RT will have the Rally cluster. Not sure if a std Coronet could be ordered with a rally cluster as it usually would be std.

 

[pnora]

This is the manual I have...
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Bingo. Never noticed it but it is the Canadian manual.

It does carry over to the next page, but there is nothing that matches my car on that page.

Thanks for that information. In my Canadian parts manual, if I read this correctly, my car would be in the W1W2 column and since there are dashes on all of the non-rallye part numbers I guess it means it didn't come with a bezel, eh?

What ever you have for a manual is all screwed up. Those part numbers are old.esp the ones that start with 18xxxxx. What I posted is what you need.

 

[Jerry Hall]

I searched high and low and located a bezel for my 68 Coronet R/T. So when I had the dash all apart I installed it on the cluster, but found that there was no way it would work when installing the cluster. I assembled my dash without it, and believe that the R/T's with the standard cluster never had that bezel.

 

[fesser]

What ever you have for a manual is all screwed up. Those part numbers are old.esp the ones that start with 18xxxxx. What I posted is what you need.

I actually find it harder to understand the listing from your manual. Where does the description for the part number 2822 880 end? If it is just the top two lines then it looks as if that could be the part number for the bezel for my car. Although I don't understand what "Cluster, V, R-L, W-L, D" is designating.

I posted the manual I have in post 10. It is factory, but it is Canadian. The part numbers are old because the manual is from November of 68.

I would like to clear up something. Is there nothing under the W1- W2 heading for a bezel at all, or is there one, but it does not mention R/T in the description?

Nothing under the W1-W2 heading in my Canadian manual other than dashes.

 

[fesser]

A Coronet will only have a Std cluster, and the SuperBee and RT will have the Rally cluster. Not sure if a std Coronet could be ordered with a rally cluster as it usually would be std.

68 Coronet R/T's did not have the rallye option. 69's did.

 

[fesser]

I searched high and low and located a bezel for my 68 Coronet R/T. So when I had the dash all apart I installed it on the cluster, but found that there was no way it would work when installing the cluster. I assembled my dash without it, and believe that the R/T's with the standard cluster never had that bezel. View attachment 1800632

This is what I am starting to believe. Mainly because the Coronet 440 I parted out didn't have one and the piece of trim that runs across the top of the face of the dash looks like it would conflict with the dash cluster bezel at the top. Looking at photos on the net, I don't see where there is room for a bezel on the 68 Coronet R/T. 1968 Dodge Coronet for example.

 

[pnora]

I actually find it harder to understand the listing from your manual. Where does the description for the part number 2822 880 end? If it is just the top two lines then it looks as if that could be the part number for the bezel for my car. Although I don't understand what "Cluster, V, R-L, W-L, D" is designating.

I posted the manual I have in post 10. It is factory, but it is Canadian. The part numbers are old because the manual is from November of 68.

Nothing under the W1-W2 heading in my Canadian manual other than dashes.

Under the car line you only have two possibilities for B-Bodies. 2822880 std cluster and 2857185 Rallye cluster. So if the Coronet is not Rallye you would take the 2822880. Clear as mud.

 

[fesser]

Under the car line you only have two possibilities for B-Bodies. 2822880 std cluster and 2857185 Rallye cluster. So if the Coronet is not Rallye you would take the 2822880. Clear as mud.

I know it sounds like I am asking a question and trying to answer it at the same time. Trust me, that is not my intention, I appreciate all of the information being posted up here. That said, wish there were more original 68 Coronet R/T guys on here that could shed light on what is actually in their cars. I just ordered a 2822880 bezel. I will see how/if it fits. Seems like a chrome frame that I can't see on pictures of 68 Coronet R/T dashes (like the one above) though.