Need opinions with Dakota fuel pump purchase...

[bandit67]

Guys, my Dad passed two years ago and I just got his 2002 four door Dakota V8 truck. Truck has been sitting at least 5 to 6 years and is full of rotten gas and fuel pump is bad, and needs replacing. Since so much China junk has flooded our country, I am wondering if any brand is 'better' than others. I have installed single Walbro pumps in the past , and had good results, but it looks like I will need a complete unit for this replacement and they don't list who's pump is in the unit. Im seeing units listing from $45 to $300 bucks.....geez....what y'all like, thanks....

 

[Don Frelier]

RockAuto let's you select your manufacturer:
You may want to run something through the injectors as well?
It's fairly easy to remove them put some lacquer thinner in a piece of fuel line connect to a 25 PSI air supply and
then "pop" them a few times with a 9Volt battery.
Also change the fuel filter.

Good luck with your project.

 

[Tony Tee]

I got the cheapest one locally for my 2000 x-cab sport 4x4 and it makes noise the gas gauge read empty with 10 gallons left in the tank. But it pumps gas! Next time I'll spend more and get a better one.

 

[eldubb440]

is oem available through Dodge?

 

[bandit67]

Not sure about an OEM unit, my nearest dealership is forty miles away. The thing seems to have a big *** gas tank, and it is full. I cannot get any kind of hose down into the tank from the large or small gas filler rubber hoses. Because it has an unremovable frame brace, you cannot let the tank straight down. Don't see how I can get the tank out till I get the gas pumped out. Most defanitly installed before cab and bed were installed.
Ive used Carter brand mechanical pumps with good results and how about Delphi, is that AC Delco brand.

 

[Don Frelier]

Not sure about an OEM unit, my nearest dealership is forty miles away. The thing seems to have a big *** gas tank, and it is full. I cannot get any kind of hose down into the tank from the large or small gas filler rubber hoses. Because it has an unremovable frame brace, you cannot let the tank straight down. Don't see how I can get the tank out till I get the gas pumped out. Most defanitly installed before cab and bed were installed.
Ive used Carter brand mechanical pumps with good results and how about Delphi, is that AC Delco brand.

Remove the bed it's not that hard and then you can easily do everything.
Just need to remove the tailgate, disconnect the taillights and fill tube.
It can be lifted off with two guys pretty easily.
I've done it with a come along and ratchet straps as well.
Then you can clean/paint and do whatever you'd like on the rear frame etc...

 

[eldubb440]

or you can redneck an access hole in the bed floor

 

[Don Frelier]

or you can redneck an access hole in the bed floor

Careful, he's in the heart of Dixie.

This could be construed as a compliment OR an insult.

And yes we've cut holes in truck beds a couple times...

 

[toolmanmike]

I have had good luck with Delphi. They make pumps for many of the manufacturers.

 

[Tony Tee]

Not sure about an OEM unit, my nearest dealership is forty miles away. The thing seems to have a big *** gas tank, and it is full. I cannot get any kind of hose down into the tank from the large or small gas filler rubber hoses. Because it has an unremovable frame brace, you cannot let the tank straight down. Don't see how I can get the tank out till I get the gas pumped out. Most defanitly installed before cab and bed were installed.
Ive used Carter brand mechanical pumps with good results and how about Delphi, is that AC Delco brand.

I used a semi rigid translucent hose .5" diameter to drain my tank . Mine has the big tank as well.
I thought it was going to be a terrible job to replace the pump. But it wasn't too difficult. Good luck.

 

[33 IMP]

My opinion is that the engineer who thought a fuel pump needed to be in the fuel tank should be hung by his nuts on a rusty hook. And bleed to death.

 

[Don Frelier]

My opinion is that the engineer who thought a fuel pump needed to be in the fuel tank should be hung by his nuts on a rusty hook. And bleed to death.

There are several good reasons for implementing them this way.
This is why every manufacturer today puts them in the tank today and has been for the last 35 years.
Many last up to 200,000 miles installed this way.
I don't disagree that newer cars are difficult sometimes almost impossible to service.
For example my son came home yesterday and told me he's got 10 hours into changing the engine oil cooling lines on a 3/4 ton Chevy truck at his work. Now that is ridiculous.
But this is not one of the things I would complain or threaten the engineers as a serious design flaw.

Around here there are no cars pre 1990 cars/trucks roaming the streets in winter.
They've either been crushed or the few that remain only get driven in summertime.

 

[dodgeboy440]

Guys, my Dad passed two years ago and I just got his 2002 four door Dakota V8 truck. Truck has been sitting at least 5 to 6 years and is full of rotten gas and fuel pump is bad, and needs replacing. Since so much China junk has flooded our country, I am wondering if any brand is 'better' than others. I have installed single Walbro pumps in the past , and had good results, but it looks like I will need a complete unit for this replacement and they don't list who's pump is in the unit. Im seeing units listing from $45 to $300 bucks.....geez....what y'all like, thanks....

Rock Auto ……
Get the best one they have & Use lots of
Lucas or Seafoam fuel treatments for several tanks of fuel …..
Seafoam helps lube the pumps & injectors .
Mopar2ya
John

 

[dodgeboy440]

Rock Auto ……
Get the best one they have & Use lots of
Lucas or Seafoam fuel treatments for several tanks of fuel …..
Seafoam helps lube the pumps & injectors .
Mopar2ya
John

PS ….. Here’s a 5% off coupon !
John

 

[bandit67]

Removing the bed , or lifting it up, is of no use on this model. The four door cab goes way over where the fuel pump assembly is in the tank itself. I have dropped one end of the tank down and can get to the two, one large and one small, fuel filler hoses. They are about 20 inches long and no matter what small hose I poke in there, it hits something like a fuel screen right at where the hose and tank meets. Does the tank have one of those anti fuel theft screens in there? I may have to lift up the fuel pump assembly a few inches and get a siphoning hose in there to pump out old fuel.....Thanks all....

 

[33 IMP]

There are several good reasons for implementing them this way.
This is why every manufacturer today puts them in the tank today and has been for the last 35 years.
Many last up to 200,000 miles installed this way.
I don't disagree that newer cars are difficult sometimes almost impossible to service.
For example my son came home yesterday and told me he's got 10 hours into changing the engine oil cooling lines on a 3/4 ton Chevy truck at his work. Now that is ridiculous.
But this is not one of the things I would complain or threaten the engineers as a serious design flaw.

Around here there are no cars pre 1990 cars/trucks roaming the streets in winter.
They've either been crushed or the few that remain only get driven in summertime.

And I literally threw away a nice car when the third in-tank pump failed (in UNDER 100,000miles) and the replacement cost was more than the car was worth.
My camaro has been sitting for a couple years, since the pump in it failed (again!) and the whole independent rear suspension removal is step one.
When I get around to it I'm gonna cut a hole in the trunk I could drive a truck thru.
I'd personally hang the engineer.

 

[33 IMP]

Until I can talk to a human at rockauto, they won't get a dime of my money.

 

[Don Frelier]

Removing the bed , or lifting it up, is of no use on this model. The four door cab goes way over where the fuel pump assembly is in the tank itself. I have dropped one end of the tank down and can get to the two, one large and one small, fuel filler hoses. They are about 20 inches long and no matter what small hose I poke in there, it hits something like a fuel screen right at where the hose and tank meets. Does the tank have one of those anti fuel theft screens in there? I may have to lift up the fuel pump assembly a few inches and get a siphoning hose in there to pump out old fuel.....Thanks all....

Another option is to disconnect the line at the fuel rail and connect a hose there.
Then jumper the fuel pump relay and pump it out somewhere.

 

[RemCharger]

Another option is to disconnect the line at the fuel rail and connect a hose there.
Then jumper the fuel pump relay and pump it out somewhere.

True but he's replacing the pump because it doesn't work. The Delphi or Carter will be just fine.

 

[bandit67]

I got the tank out with much 'persuasion ' on my part. The two filler hoses attached at the tank does indeed have a screen inside and you cannot get a hose in there to siphon out fuel. Raised up the pump assembly a few inches and got a hose in there, pumped out over 15 gallons of stinky gas. Pulled out the pump and the pickup screen was mush, sitting in ethanol gas all those years will surly make rot rather quickly. But, with that big ole pump removed, it was easy to get my arm in there and clean out the plastic tank real clean. Now to order a pump, anyone know if this is the 22 or 24 gallon tank, seem there are different pumps.....