OK, Does ANYONE really know?

[skyman51]

Please no opinions or more urban legends. Can anyone definitively show that the 67 GTX wood grain wheel for the entire production year is the open cut spokes wheel often called the recall wheel or finger cutter. I personaly do not believe this wheel was ever recalled and replaced with the solid spokes in late production that than continued into the 68 model year.

 

[skyman51]

I give up! I can't get a solid provable answer anywhere. The last word I got was these wheels were the originals and, were recalled to be replaced, but not all were returned. This is the reason they are still floating around in small numbers. However this indsividual is unable to show documentation from Mopar that this did ocurr.

 

[HT413]

How about asking Galin Glover or one of the registries?

 

[69Coronetrt]

Please no opinions or more urban legends. Can anyone definitively show that the 67 GTX wood grain wheel for the entire production year is the open cut spokes wheel often called the recall wheel or finger cutter. I personaly do not believe this wheel was ever recalled and replaced with the solid spokes in late production that than continued into the 68 model year.

The 573 steering was, apparently, at least suspended. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com...ipLetters/1967/8-23-1966 flash bulletin 1.jpg

I only have one 67 B body BS that shows the 573 option so I can't compare it to an earlier sheet to see if the build code is different than early releases. The car I have carries a B12 SPD. Build code shows 14T. This car would have been built AFTER the release issued above so, it appears, the 573 code wheel was suspended and re issued later.

 

[skyman51]

The 573 steering was, apparently, at least suspended. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com...ipLetters/1967/8-23-1966 flash bulletin 1.jpg

I only have one 67 B body BS that shows the 573 option so I can't compare it to an earlier sheet to see if the build code is different than early releases. The car I have carries a B12 SPD. Build code shows 14T. This car would have been built AFTER the release issued above so, it appears, the 573 code wheel was suspended and re issued later.

Great stuff, but I am having a hard time deciphering your abbreviations and explanation. My car was built June 28th of 1970. If this wheel was reissued would it have been on this car?

 

[A383Wing]

no...70 wheels are completely different than the 67 ones

 

[69Coronetrt]

Great stuff, but I am having a hard time deciphering your abbreviations and explanation. My car was built June 28th of 1970. If this wheel was reissued would it have been on this car?

Sorry...I thought we were talking about your 67.
573 is the sales code for the 67 wood grain wheel.
BS= broadcast sheet
B12 SPD= November 12 (1966) scheduled production date
Build code 14T = the specific code on the sheet calling for the wood grain wheel to be installed in the car.

The link shows that the wood grain wheel (code 573) was at least suspended in August. This may be the open cut wheel you referenced.
The broadcast sheet I have shows the 573 wheel was available in November meaning it was reinstated.
What I can't answer is whether or not the early wood grain carried the same Build code (14T) as the early wheel.

This brings up the question: did the early wheel code the same on the broadcast sheet as the wheel that was available in November (or later in the model year. I don't have any later sheets showing the 573 sales code so I can't compare the Build codes)?

If it codes differently then that would be a partial answer to your question.
If it codes the same, then we need to find out if Mopar just changed the wheel and associated part number but left the build code the same.
The parts book only shows one wheel and part number available but there can be explanations for that.

Does this help clear up my line of thinking?

 

[skyman51]

Sorry...I thought we were talking about your 67.
573 is the sales code for the 67 wood grain wheel.
BS= broadcast sheet
B12 SPD= November 12 (1966) scheduled production date
Build code 14T = the specific code on the sheet calling for the wood grain wheel to be installed in the car.

The link shows that the wood grain wheel (code 573) was at least suspended in August. This may be the open cut wheel you referenced.
The broadcast sheet I have shows the 573 wheel was available in November meaning it was reinstated.
What I can't answer is whether or not the early wood grain carried the same Build code (14T) as the early wheel.

This brings up the question: did the early wheel code the same on the broadcast sheet as the wheel that was available in November (or later in the model year. I don't have any later sheets showing the 573 sales code so I can't compare the Build codes)?

If it codes differently then that would be a partial answer to your question.
If it codes the same, then we need to find out if Mopar just changed the wheel and associated part number but left the build code the same.
The parts book only shows one wheel and part number available but there can be explanations for that.

Does this help clear up my line of thinking?

Thank you very much, you unlocked my brain freeze. It is a moot point as I won't change the wheel. I spoke with Mike of Mike's Steering Wheels in Texas. He was not sure about the recall, but he did say that the Plymouth logo in the center of the pad is near impossible to find and the pad itself is different from every other year. Also, the spokes cannot be rechromed. Therefore if they are not perfect, that is what you get.
Just to be clear, I was just trying to verify the true facts on this wheel. My car and build sheet was for the standard plastic wheel, which is impossible to find in my interior color, COPPER. The wood wheel on my car looks fabulous and I do not really care, but if anyone knows the location of a complete Copper plastic wheel I would be very interested. Thanks to all for your posts.

 

[tallhair]

Great stuff, but I am having a hard time deciphering your abbreviations and explanation. My car was built June 28th of 1970. If this wheel was reissued would it have been on this car?

I'm glad you got the answer you were looking for because it was completely confusing me. Out of curiosity where does the 67 GTX wood grain wheel enter this equation?

 

[skyman51]

This is my cars interior.

 

[A383Wing]

that's not the recall wheel...it's just the standard woodgrain wheel,

below is the recall version

 

[ODZKing]

That wheel was also pictures in the 67 Drealer broshure.

Interesting that memo was dated 66 from the "Syracuse Office". We had an office here?

 

[skyman51]

that's not the recall wheel...it's just the standard woodgrain wheel,

below is the recall version

I am very familiar with the recall wheel. We are all trying to determine if it was actually recalled. It appears from that internal memo, it was stopped for production. When did it rsume if it did is the question. It appears they were not recalled on those cars that went to the dealer with them.

 

[69Coronetrt]

I am very familiar with the recall wheel. We are all trying to determine if it was actually recalled. It appears from that internal memo, it was stopped for production. When did it rsume if it did is the question. It appears they were not recalled on those cars that went to the dealer with them.

Let's try again.....

We know that sales code 573 wheel was suspended. We're presuming that was the 'recall wheel'
We know a code 573 wheel existed again in November meaning the sales code was reinstated.
What we do not know is of the suspended wheel was, actually, stopped and a new wheel was in place by November or if the suspended wheel was back in production.

What is the PN on the recall wheel?
What is the build code (found on the earliest sheets with 573 sales code)
What is the PN of the replacement wheel?
What is the build code?

Once those are known, then we can compare PN in the parts books (all versions if they can be found) and broadcast sheet assembly codes to see if the PN was superseded and when.

 

[ODZKing]

I can't speak for Belvedere or GTX however my understanding was the 573 code on a Charger AFTER the "recall wheel" was the wooden one as in 66. In 1967 on a Charger the standard wheel was the black (or color matched) wheel with either half or full horn ring.
The option was the wooden wheel with center horn button (not recall or finger slicer as it was called).

 

[tallhair]

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This is my cars interior.

All right so the 1970 was a typo then. Got it.

Originally Posted by skyman51
Great stuff, but I am having a hard time deciphering your abbreviations and explanation. My car was built June 28th of 1970. If this wheel was reissued would it have been on this car?

 

[A383Wing]

Steve's 67 has the recall wheel on it...I'll try and fine the tag info. The cars that had the wheels already installed and that have left the factory remained that way...

and what Bob said above is true...standard Charger wheel in 66 was the woodgrain, in 67, it was optional

 

[skyman51]

View attachment 152627

This is my cars interior.

Without pointing any fingers, I have gotten a snow job on the wheel on my car. It is most definitely a 1966 wheel that was not issued on 1967 cars, although it fits perfectly and looks great. I located a 1967 Charger built May 1970 that has the recall wheel on it. The owner bought the car from the original owner in 1970 with that wheel on it. It is coded 573 on his build sheet. I think that says it all for me.

 

[ODZKing]

Again, I can not speak for the GTX, but in a Charger it clearly states in the 67 dealer book that you could order a 3 spoke simulated wood grain wheel.
Under appearance - See: http://www.retrorarities.com/ChargerDealerBrochure/pages/1966-10a.htm

 

[skyman51]

Maybe I was BS'd on the Green 67 Charger I found. Does anyone have an actual photo from a brochure of the option woodgrain wheel on the 1967 Charger?