Old Belvedere

[66383]

1971 Bokwlig Green Ky. 383/727/4:56 Dual Quads. My buddy’s mom bought this for him out of National Dragster. Best I remember, ran hi 11’s. Ah, the good ole days!

 

[Ron H]

Wow - what a mom! My mom co-signed for me when I was 17 to buy my 1st car...'67 GTO. Yeah da good old days!

 

[Jerry Hall]

My parents didn't co-sign for me on anything, but I'm sure there good standing in the community did help. My dad stood firm on pay your own way.

 

[biomedtechguy]

Quick "racing" question.
I notice "station wagons" as race cars, probably more of a particular model regardless of manufacturer, on the track now more than the street or at shows.
For example, the Belvedere wagon. I've NEVER seen one, ever! Or a Chevelle wagon, or...fill in the blank.
I rarely if ever see those "wagons" anywhere but a race track.
Is there any particular benefit to racing a wagon? It would seem to me like they'd be a heavier version of the 2 door model?

 

[605ply]

Quick "racing" question.
I notice "station wagons" as race cars, probably more of a particular model regardless of manufacturer, on the track now more than the street or at shows.
For example, the Belvedere wagon. I've NEVER seen one, ever! Or a Chevelle wagon, or...fill in the blank.
I rarely if ever see those "wagons" anywhere but a race track.
Is there any particular benefit to racing a wagon? It would seem to me like they'd be a heavier version of the 2 door model?

...they were not as heavy as they looked and you could move weight around (Used to be a bigger deal than it is now)

 

[cjd1963]

Quick "racing" question.
I notice "station wagons" as race cars, probably more of a particular model regardless of manufacturer, on the track now more than the street or at shows.
For example, the Belvedere wagon. I've NEVER seen one, ever! Or a Chevelle wagon, or...fill in the blank.
I rarely if ever see those "wagons" anywhere but a race track.
Is there any particular benefit to racing a wagon? It would seem to me like they'd be a heavier version of the 2 door model?

Wagons have great weight transfer to the rear wheels. They will hook at most tracks even if the starting line isn't well prepped.

 

[Darter6]

biomedtechguy, You will find that wagons were raced in the stock/superstock classes.Back in the 60's and also today. A neighbor runs a 77Dodge Aspen wagon in stock class and does quite well.Maybe a year or two ago Hot Rod did a barn find on a 62 Dart wagon that raced in the early 60's.You may find it in their archives.

 

[biomedtechguy]

Those are all great examples of what I'm talking about.
I had a 79 Aspen R/T, e58 "police" 360 4bbl yada yada...
I certainly didn't weigh the Aspen wagon as an alternative to the 2 door R/T when I was checking off option boxes on the Dodge order form, nor would I consider a Satellite station wagon in lieu of my Roadrunner, but wagons are running the 1320 for sure!
The only performance I experienced in a station wagon is something that is between me and the girls I used to know...

 

[Ron H]

I see more wagons at the shows whether kept original or tricked up. Have developed a like for them. Of course, back in da day few considered wagons or 4 doors the cool thing. Makes me regret a few occasions where I could have snagged wagons for cheap! The solid body '63 Plymouth for $2500 and a 59 Dodge wagon for around 3k. This was 10 + years ago now. Some guys have restoed these to look real nice. And the two door wagons look really neat.

 

[Jerry Hall]

I see more wagons at the shows whether kept original or tricked up. Have developed a like for them. Of course, back in da day few considered wagons or 4 doors the cool thing. Makes me regret a few occasions where I could have snagged wagons for cheap! The solid body '63 Plymouth for $2500 and a 59 Dodge wagon for around 3k. This was 10 + years ago now. Some guys have restoed these to look real nice. And the two door wagons look really neat.

I wouldn't have passed on any 2 door wagon, but I do have my grandfather's last new car.

 

[66383]

That is a real treasure to have your grandpa's wagon. Nice!

 

[Mike Gaines]

Quick "racing" question.
I notice "station wagons" as race cars, probably more of a particular model regardless of manufacturer, on the track now more than the street or at shows.
For example, the Belvedere wagon. I've NEVER seen one, ever! Or a Chevelle wagon, or...fill in the blank.
I rarely if ever see those "wagons" anywhere but a race track.
Is there any particular benefit to racing a wagon? It would seem to me like they'd be a heavier version of the 2 door model?

Tritak & Morgan....War Wagon. 1963 Plymouth Station Wagon with 426 Max Wedge and Aluminum Front End....the Killer Car in its day...

 

[biomedtechguy]

Thanks Mike, you would know.
One thing about the wagons is LOTS of space for stickers!

 

[nitrojunkie]

That DeSoto wagon is just plain COOL.

 

[bobs63wagon]

Quick "racing" question.
I notice "station wagons" as race cars, probably more of a particular model regardless of manufacturer, on the track now more than the street or at shows.
For example, the Belvedere wagon. I've NEVER seen one, ever! Or a Chevelle wagon, or...fill in the blank.
I rarely if ever see those "wagons" anywhere but a race track.
Is there any particular benefit to racing a wagon? It would seem to me like they'd be a heavier version of the 2 door model?

I have a Max Wedge 63 wagon with aluminum front. My wagon fits in B/SA. If it was a 2 door it would be A/SA. Wagons were used to fit a particular class for NHRA.

 

[biomedtechguy]

I have a Max Wedge 63 wagon with aluminum front. My wagon fits in B/SA. If it was a 2 door it would be A/SA. Wagons were used to fit a particular class for NHRA.

That makes a lot of sense for what I was talking about.
Thanks!

 

[66383]

Let's see that thing!

 

[Mike Gaines]

Let's see that thing!

yes....pictures of your 63 wagon...dying to see them...thanks from all of us......

 

[Darter6]

Agree,agree, AGREE !