push button in a column shift car

[65Belvie]

Hello, I recently purchased a 727 push button trans and I'm in the plan of attack stage for the installation. I have a 65 Belvedere II with a slant and a 904 column shift. My new acquisition is a 318 backed by a 62 push button trans. My question is what is required for retaining the factory column shifter?

 

[monaco66coupe]

The cable shift cable may connect to the steering column where the original is for the 904. That was the last year for a cable shift, 1965.

 

[moparcrazy]

62 and 65 have different yokes on the trans, so you mite need a new driveshaft as-well, the 65 has the more desired slip yoke v.s the 62

 

[lewtot184]

valve bodies for '62's are different from '65's. pretty sure you won't be able to get into park with a '62 valve body. you'll probably need a '64 floor shift or '65 column or floor shift valve body. whatever you do don't toss that '62 valve body. they're becoming hard to find.

 

[PRND21]

Not all 65s had a slip yoke trans. Some of the low performance cars, maybe early production, had the ball and trunion drive shaft.

 

[PRND21]

valve bodies for '62's are different from '65's. pretty sure you won't be able to get into park with a '62 valve body. you'll probably need a '64 floor shift or '65 column or floor shift valve body. whatever you do don't toss that '62 valve body. they're becoming hard to find.

I wasn't aware there was a difference in valve bodies. I have a 62 trans I was planning on using in my 64 project. Is this going to work with pushbuttons? You're saying just the 65s and 64 floor shifts are different? Thanks.

 

[65Belvie]

My car is an original 65 slant six 904 and has the same ball and trunion style drive shaft. Valve body sounds like a project. If that's the only way I may think of selling it and looking for a correct trans. But then again that may prove to be just as difficult

 

[dvw]

Bolt the 65 valve body into the 62 trans. 904 and a 727 are the same except for minimumm calibration differences. 65 valve body has the internal rooster comb/shift selection valve with the extra detent for park. You will either need a 65 727 output shaft and tail shaft or use the 62 ball and trunk on drive shaft. I'm assuming you are using the stock 318 and torque converter. I'm not sure if the 904 cables will work .
Doug

 

[lewtot184]

I wasn't aware there was a difference in valve bodies. I have a 62 trans I was planning on using in my 64 project. Is this going to work with pushbuttons? You're saying just the 65s and 64 floor shifts are different? Thanks.

if the '64 car is push button you should be ok. '65 column or floor shift should be the same. '64 push button is different from '64 floor shift. the valve body (part with all the shuttle plugs/valves) is different along with the rooster comb on '64 floor shift and '65 column or floor shift. figured this out the hard way,...lol.

 

[PRND21]

if the '64 car is push button you should be ok. '65 column or floor shift should be the same. '64 push button is different from '64 floor shift. the valve body (part with all the shuttle plugs/valves) is different along with the rooster comb on '64 floor shift and '65 column or floor shift. figured this out the hard way,...lol.

Thanks for the information. I thought all the cable shift trans were the same except for calibrations. Learn something new every day. It makes me scratch my head sometimes trying to figure why Chrysler would go to the expense and trouble to make minute little changes, why they would change a machine setup or casting or stamping when it really wouldn't make any difference one way or another.

 

[PRND21]

Bolt the 65 valve body into the 62 trans. 904 and a 727 are the same except for minimumm calibration differences. 65 valve body has the internal rooster comb/shift selection valve with the extra detent for park. You will either need a 65 727 output shaft and tail shaft or use the 62 ball and trunk on drive shaft. I'm assuming you are using the stock 318 and torque converter. I'm not sure if the 904 cables will work .
Doug

So basically lever shift trans has a detent comb and pushbuttons don't need one? That would make sense.

 

[lewtot184]

So basically lever shift trans has a detent comb and pushbuttons don't need one? That would make sense.

push buttons have a rooster comb but it doesn't allow for more travel. if you think about it a push button valve body has to be put in neutral first and the the park lever pulled when parking the car. two functions-two cables. a floor shift or column shift has to perform both functions with the movement of one lever; impossible with a push button valve body.

 

[65Belvie]

The plan at this point is put the 65 904 valve body on the 62 727 trans. I'm assuming the cables will line up given the identical length between transmissions. The driveshaft is not an issue. I have a compatible driveshaft in my car. Thanks for the info! This forum is great!

 

[dvw]

The plan at this point is put the 65 904 valve body on the 62 727 trans. I'm assuming the cables will line up given the identical length between transmissions. The driveshaft is not an issue. I have a compatible driveshaft in my car. Thanks for the info! This forum is great!

Standard slip yoke 904 and 727 trans are not the same length. Not sure on the push button .
Doug

 

[PRND21]

push buttons have a rooster comb but it doesn't allow for more travel. if you think about it a push button valve body has to be put in neutral first and the the park lever pulled when parking the car. two functions-two cables. a floor shift or column shift has to perform both functions with the movement of one lever; impossible with a push button valve body.

Yep, you're right. I never thought about it that way. With pushbuttons you're in neutral when it goes into park, levers you go past neutral to go into park.

 

[65Belvie]

So is it safe to say I can swap over the 904 column shift valve body to the 727 pushbutton Trans and everything should work accordingly. Or is the single action of the column not enough to engage it into park?

 

[Rick Carson]

the 65 904 valve body will do the job in the 62 727,but you will need a shorter drive shaft because the 727 is about 4" longer than the 904approx.