Ski lift Accident Avoided

[j-c-c-62]

Colorado Ski lift today had a structural failure, and likely because of quick and decisive action, there were no injuries. However, with the quick repair and back up and running, it begs the question why the failure in the first place.
I suspect design failure. It appears a main suspension cable rocker roller guide beam failed at the lower turn, and likely why staff spotted the crack so quickly, averting disaster. The failed beams crack is clearly seen in the video, at :21. This video contrary to other videos reports the lift "automatically shut down".
I find it hard to believe this lift which I am sure is inspected thoroughly and yearly I hope at a state level could be examined, repaired and approved to be back in service so quickly.

MSN

 

[Mopar Hunter]

Sadly, quality work is no longer available, it's being sold to the cheapest contractor. It’s all about profit, who gives a **** about safety.

 

[3sloppydogs]

Another reason for me to not ski
I hate snow

 

[davek]

Im happy the staff wasnt looking at their cell phone. Its hard to get anyone to do their job now.

 

[kiwigtx]

The guy doing the maintenance had a 'Tick sheet' and it was raining that day.....

 

[SteveSS]

Lift tickets have passed $300/day this year. The snow is good this year so far, based on how many avalanche warnings there are.

 

[j-c-c-62]

Do you find it odd that the facility had a spare of what looked to be a fairly new non wear item just sitting around?

 

[QuickBpBp]

Sadly, quality work is no longer available, it's being sold to the cheapest contractor. It’s all about profit, who gives a **** about safety.

Yep lots of people working on “cheapest contractor” crews are not even legal to be working. I see it here all over especially with tree services… The owners of the companies use that labor to maximize profits and screw real Americans. True scum.

 

[Geff McCarthy]

Quick, your post is a reasonable economic argument...up to a point...the theory being that illegal immigrants will take any job, at lower wages than "real Americans". (I assume you do not intend to argue that "real Americans" are...white...) This has always been the case since Revolutionary times, immigrants hope for any job, sacrificing so their children can achieve the American Dream.
A relevant counter-example: "Dave" in my local transmission shop could fix any transmission from my 727 or BW-35 which he rebuilt for $800. His helper retired, and he simply could not find or keep a young person who wanted to work and learn the trade. OK, this is the Peoples Republic of Portland, but...I bet the problem is the same all over the US. Younger generations have a weak work ethic.
There are 2 other arguments for a generous American immigration policy: 1. We have an overheated economy. Good for jobs, but rising prices and rising inflation are the inevitable result. 3-4% unemployment is too...Little. Normally about 5% of all workers are unemployed, the vast majority temporarily. (I took Econ 101 some decades ago...)The large proportion of Turks in Germany were invited in the 60s-70s because of the utter lack of sufficient Germans to man the overworked factories. 2. The US population is declining, our birth rate now imitates all other countries except Muslim nations. We will only grow in the future by immigration. Whether the economy needs to constantly grow is another question...
Our gardener is a very hard working Mexican immigrant, legal. He employs other Mexicans, and I would not object to an apparently illegal immigrant helper, as Jose would treat him fairly. Immigration policy, IMO, has always been selfish, restricting entrants to favored groups, in small numbers. My 4 grandparents immigrated legally from Ireland in the 1890s, no permission needed, just book passage. How different today...

 

[j-c-c-62]

A breath of Fresh air just blew through.
And I will leave it at that.

 

[QuickBpBp]

Quick, your post is a reasonable economic argument...up to a point...the theory being that illegal immigrants will take any job, at lower wages than "real Americans". (I assume you do not intend to argue that "real Americans" are...white...) This has always been the case since Revolutionary times, immigrants hope for any job, sacrificing so their children can achieve the American Dream.
A relevant counter-example: "Dave" in my local transmission shop could fix any transmission from my 727 or BW-35 which he rebuilt for $800. His helper retired, and he simply could not find or keep a young person who wanted to work and learn the trade. OK, this is the Peoples Republic of Portland, but...I bet the problem is the same all over the US. Younger generations have a weak work ethic.
There are 2 other arguments for a generous American immigration policy: 1. We have an overheated economy. Good for jobs, but rising prices and rising inflation are the inevitable result. 3-4% unemployment is too...Little. Normally about 5% of all workers are unemployed, the vast majority temporarily. (I took Econ 101 some decades ago...)The large proportion of Turks in Germany were invited in the 60s-70s because of the utter lack of sufficient Germans to man the overworked factories. 2. The US population is declining, our birth rate now imitates all other countries except Muslim nations. We will only grow in the future by immigration. Whether the economy needs to constantly grow is another question...
Our gardener is a very hard working Mexican immigrant, legal. He employs other Mexicans, and I would not object to an apparently illegal immigrant helper, as Jose would treat him fairly. Immigration policy, IMO, has always been selfish, restricting entrants to favored groups, in small numbers. My 4 grandparents immigrated legally from Ireland in the 1890s, no permission needed, just book passage. How different today...

Treating people fair by hiring them and having them QUALIFIED to work is two different things.. Bringing more people into "work" also means bringing in MORE people along with them that depend on WORKING AMERICANS to pay for them. How about instead of importing people why not have better parenting, schooling, promote trade schools instead of college and stop the demonization of the nuclear family here in the US to get rid of the younger generations poor work ethic and let them have an interest in having a family? I don't have any work ethic problem with my kids BUT I do agree as I have seen it with OTHER people's kids who are in their 20's, don't work, play video games and smoke weed all day. It's learned behavior. I also don't give a FK what color a person is. A good person IS a good person irrelevant to their skin color BUT I do care whether they are here legally and if are they an asset to the Nation. Some of these businesses here had/have people driving around in big Trucks with-out a CDL doing work they have no business doing. Is that treating the public well putting them at risk? Asplundh a local tree service here was fined 95 MILLION some years ago for having unqualified people driving CDL Trucks, regular trucks while doing tree work they were not "legal" to do. Also unemployment IS higher than the 4.3% they say it is as many people have simply left the workforce and those people are simply not counted in case you didn't know if you quit your job you can't collect and are not counted.. Only in special circumstances can they collect if the court approves it then they would be counted. Anyway I won't even mention what happened the last few years with "immigration" and the BILLIONS it cost the immigrants & Americans as it would be moved to the Political Forum.
I hope the mods know I did my best to keep politics out of it.

Feel free to send me a private message if you feel the need to reply as to not ruin the original posters thread...

 

[j-c-c-62]

"Some of these businesses here had/have people driving around in big Trucks with-out a CDL doing work they have no business doing. Is that treating the public well putting them at risk? Asplundh a local tree service here was fined 95 MILLION some years ago for having unqualified people driving CDL Trucks, regular trucks while doing tree work they were not "legal" to do."

Maybe, but was the risk real or just imagined, because in this case the financial liability was fully covered by a large well-established corporation, and I have yet to hear of any rash of illegal corporate CDL's having/causing accidents. Getting a CDL hardly indicates IMO one is really "qualified" except for a lot of silly nonsense. Unbeknownst to me, the safest driver I have ever driven with for 20? years, earlier had his DL permanently revoked at 19 with receiving 3 DUI's in six months. He drove safe because he knew he could not get stopped and he had a family was married, a job and kids. I later found out he tried numerous times to resolve the DL issue, but the state would have none of it.

 

[QuickBpBp]

"Some of these businesses here had/have people driving around in big Trucks with-out a CDL doing work they have no business doing. Is that treating the public well putting them at risk? Asplundh a local tree service here was fined 95 MILLION some years ago for having unqualified people driving CDL Trucks, regular trucks while doing tree work they were not "legal" to do."

Maybe, but was the risk real or just imagined, because in this case the financial liability was fully covered by a large well-established corporation, and I have yet to hear of any rash of illegal corporate CDL's having/causing accidents. Getting a CDL hardly indicates IMO one is really "qualified" except for a lot of silly nonsense. Unbeknownst to me, the safest driver I have ever driven with for 20? years, earlier had his DL permanently suspended at 19 with receiving 3 DUI's in six months. He drove safe because he knew he could not get stopped and he had a family was married, a job and kids. I later found out he tried numerous times to resolve the DL issue, but the state would have none of it.

Good for the State for upholding the law. Do the crime serve the time. My wife was smashed into by a Drunk Driver totaling her car but thankfully she was hit in the passenger side not the drivers side shoving that side of the car in. Thankfully she ended up only having some cuts and bruises from the seatbelt and the airbag being deployed. I have no time for drunks and there is no need to praise a three-time offender driving drunk because if he was caught 3 times he probably was drunk driving a lot more..

 

[j-c-c-62]

Good for the State for upholding the law. Do the crime serve the time. My wife was smashed into by a Drunk Driver totaling her car but thankfully she was hit in the passenger side not the drivers side shoving that side of the car in. Thankfully she ended up only having some cuts and bruises from the seatbelt and the airbag being deployed. I have no time for drunks and there is no need to praise a three-time offender driving drunk because if he was caught 3 times he probably was drunk driving a lot more..

He was 19, I never saw him drink and drive and I would never be in the car with him if he was ever drinking.
I am sure many here have legally driven DUI before the age of 20 and never got caught, and those days are way behind them also.
After 20 years of a clean record, I can find the compassion to give somebody a second chance that never killed anybody while driving, but then that is me.
I believe convicted drunk drivers should have their seat belts/airbags removed for a first offense for 2 years,
Second offense requires a 6" spike mounted on the center of their steering wheel.

 

[QuickBpBp]

He was 19, I never saw him drink and drive and I would never be in the car with him if he was ever drinking.
I am sure many here have legally driven DUI before the age of 20 and never got caught, and those days are way behind them also.
After 20 years of a clean record, I can find the compassion to give somebody a second chance that never killed anybody while driving, but then that is me.
I believe convicted drunk drivers should have their seat belts/airbags removed for a first offense for 2 years,
Second offense requires a 6" spike mounted on the center of their steering wheel.

19 years old and caught 3 times??? He had a problem and HAD to learn the hard way so he didn't kill someone. Removing air bags and seatbelts do no good when they go out and kill OTHERS loved ones..

 

[j-c-c-62]

19 years old and caught 3 times??? He had a problem and HAD to learn the hard way so he didn't kill someone. Removing air bags and seatbelts do no good when they go out and kill OTHERS loved ones..

All 19-year-olds all have not fully developed brains in impulse control is proven fact.
And I believe no seat belts and no air bags gives Darwin a better chance of sorting the errant drivers out long term, at least better than judges seem to do, but I may be wrong.