Torx WTF

[Geetex]

through the miracles of technology

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Well, that won't work, it's broke, WTF.

 

[33 IMP]

through the miracles of technology

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Grind the end square again, BINGO! New Allen socket.

 

[toolmanmike]

On a serious note, not too long ago I was taking something apart that was being discarded ( I like to do sometimes to see how certain gadgets work) and the fasteners were these small triangle screws. Wut ?? Don't have a tool for that in my toolbox ? Toolman Mike probably has what I needed !

I used to. Probably a Tri-groove tamper proof. Really odd.

 

[toolmanmike]

through the miracles of technology

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Snap On snapped off. They use the wrong grade of tool steel and it makes them brittle.

 

[eldubb440]

Snap On snapped off. They use the wrong grade of tool steel and it makes them brittle.

I can hear the Forged in Fire guys now

 

[1967coronet]

We used to fight those frigging things at the shop.
Pickup bed / box bolts... really , in the midwest farm country rust belt.
Seat belts. Cab mounts , the list goes on.
I hear ya eldubb , we had to keep duplicates of the larger sizes,
Snappy and Mac so at least we could exchange them.

 

[Kern Dog]

They work great as a replacement for Phillips and slotted head screws, which is all they're really good for .

I have used them for wood construction and deck boards. The Torx pattern does not slip like a Phillips pattern does.

Screws and small fasteners only!!

THAT is good advice.

 

[toolmanmike]

We used to fight those frigging things at the shop.
Pickup bed / box bolts... really , in the midwest farm country rust belt.
Seat belts. Cab mounts , the list goes on.
I hear ya eldubb , we had to keep duplicates of the larger sizes,
Snappy and Mac so at least we could exchange them.

And most of them were Torx+ We got looking at a specific driver made for Ford box bolts and saw it was different than standard Torx. It saved us a lot of warranty.

 

[33 IMP]

And most of them were Torx+ We got looking at a specific driver made for Ford box bolts and saw it was different than standard Torx. It saved us a lot of warranty.

So it wasn't bad enough that they developed another bolt style for no good reason except to sell tools, they had to develop ANOTHER version of the same unneeded bolts, to sell EVEN MORE tools?
What can torx do that Allen's cant?

 

[Hey-O]

I have used them for wood construction and deck boards. The Torx pattern does not slip like a Phillips pattern does.



THAT is good advice.

You're absolutely right, I've built more than my share of decks and they work much better than a Phillips. You get a little bit of center while driving a Phillips and they start to bounce till they destroy the head. I had one of these, but it wasn't cordless. This makes short work of it.


I used ones like these for mounting 2 x 4 plates to steel. Once and done!
https://www.amazon.com/FMhotu-Self-...cphy=1020613&hvtargid=pla-2281435181658&psc=1

 

[Kern Dog]

There was an employee at a Home Depot that flat out insisted that I use the Torx headed screws when I said that I wanted Phillips.
The man was right and I learned a bit that day.
In fact, that was a point where I started trying some new things under the theme of....Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Nowadays, I try foods that I didn't before because I figure this isn't the last meal I'll ever eat, why not try it?
That philosophy can be applied to a number of things. It can lead to some great new discoveries.

 

[RemCharger]

I have used them for wood construction and deck boards. The Torx pattern does not slip like a Phillips pattern does.



THAT is good advice.

You're absolutely right, I've built more than my share of decks and they work much better than a Phillips. You get a little bit of center while driving a Phillips and they start to bounce till they destroy the head. I had one of these, but it wasn't cordless. This makes short work of it.


I used ones like these for mounting 2 x 4 plates to steel. Once and done!
https://www.amazon.com/FMhotu-Self-...cphy=1020613&hvtargid=pla-2281435181658&psc=1

Do you guys not use Robertson ( aka " square heads") down there for decks and framing?

 

[MarPar]

There was an employee at a Home Depot that flat out insisted that I use the Torx headed screws when I said that I wanted Phillips.
The man was right and I learned a bit that day.
In fact, that was a point where I started trying some new things under the theme of....Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Nowadays, I try foods that I didn't before because I figure this isn't the last meal I'll ever eat, why not try it?
That philosophy can be applied to a number of things. It can lead to some great new discoveries.

Ever try beef head-meat tacos? If you like lots of savory, beefy flavor (think short ribs), you'll like em. Just get em from a taco joint you know.

 

[Kern Dog]

We had those square type fasteners in construction 20+ years ago. They were in the device as shown in post #50.
They sucked. They stripped out the square hole in the screws, leaving the screw sticking up...unable to fully seat them. We had to smack them with a hammer to break off the part sticking up, then drive another screw near the broken one.

 

[Hey-O]

Do you guys not use Robertson ( aka " square heads") down there for decks and framing?

I can and have, sometimes it depends on what store I'm at and what they have. If the owner didn't care, I'd use galvanized rink shanks for my air nailer.

 

[Hey-O]

We had those square type fasteners in construction 20+ years ago. They were in the device as shown in post #50.
They sucked. They stripped out the square hole in the screws, leaving the screw sticking up...unable to fully seat them. We had to smack them with a hammer to break off the part sticking up, then drive another screw near the broken one.

X2.

 

[DeltaV]

Another spawn of Satan

 

[toolmanmike]

So it wasn't bad enough that they developed another bolt style for no good reason except to sell tools, they had to develop ANOTHER version of the same unneeded bolts, to sell EVEN MORE tools?
What can torx do that Allen's cant?

I don't believe that for a minute. I was at the dealer for 12 years before being in the tool business for 28. The tool business was always the last to know when it came to fastener tools. I remember at the Buick store when a early 78 Regal came off the transport with a broken headlight. We had to drill out the Torx headed screws to get the headlight bezel off. We made calls to the tool dealers and they had no clue what we were talking about. It took months before they could supply us with Torx bits. All we needed was a T15.

 

[RemCharger]

We had those square type fasteners in construction 20+ years ago. They were in the device as shown in post #50.
They sucked. They stripped out the square hole in the screws, leaving the screw sticking up...unable to fully seat them. We had to smack them with a hammer to break off the part sticking up, then drive another screw near the broken one.

X2.

Interesting, they are pretty much all that's used up here. With a quality bit, they're very positive engaged . BUT, I've never seen them used in that device.
Once the bit is worn, grab a new one

 

[WileE]

On a serious note, not too long ago I was taking something apart that was being discarded ( I like to do sometimes to see how certain gadgets work) and the fasteners were these small triangle screws. Wut ?? Don't have a tool for that in my toolbox ? Toolman Mike probably has what I needed !

Another spawn of Satan

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YES !! ^^^ This is what I was referring to.