Torx WTF

[old guys rule]

I submit the following smart *** replies-all done in the voice of Gilbert Gottfried
1. And they have the nerve to call them TORQUES!
2. Dont even think about buying Harbor Freight Torx bits!
3. Remember the old shade tree torque rule of thumb- tighten till it breaks then back off 1/4 turn

Remove torx and use normality. Retain sanity. USA fasteners like good old days!

 

[kiwigtx]

Safety torx?

AKA Tamper Torx. For security - usually installed by Chinese manufacturers of toasters and kettles etc. Home appliances for preventing potential home repairs.

 

[toolmanmike]

who came up with this crap?

my buddy was here working on his car....... alterkation front

anyway, bolts in aluminum hubs are T45 and call for 55 ft lbs of torque......he breaks a craftsman T45

no biggy, I hand him a Snapon T45 ........ and snap! WTF!!!

pic, as per the golden rule

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Are you sure it's not a T47? There is that size used.

 

[kiwigtx]

Remove torx and use normality. Retain sanity. USA fasteners like good old days!

You mean slotted screws so that everyone with a rounded off flat screwdriver can really bugger up the screws?

The best and only screw I use by choice now (and for the past 10 years or more) is the square drive aka the Robertson screw. Almost 100% guaranteed not to slip or break.....except Stainless steel versions. I only use the SS square drive screws for soft applications - cedar or plastic etc....never in hard woods ....and I am very cautious when using them outdoors in concrete or brick.

They are so good you can even get the next size down driver, and they still undo without issues.

 

[eldubb440]

Are you sure it's not a T47? There is that size used.

too big........... T45 fit tight, no damage to the splines on either the bolt head or the tool

 

[Hey-O]

AKA Tamper Torx. For security - usually installed by Chinese manufacturers of toasters and kettles etc. Home appliances for preventing potential home repairs.

And crapper doors in Chrysler bathrooms to keep people from stealing the hardware, for what, lord only knows.

 

[Scott Engelhardt]

My company uses button head cap bolts with hex head and they are always stripping out. Not only does a person need quality tools to do our jobs but they need to use quality fasteners

 

[33 IMP]

My company uses button head cap bolts with hex head and they are always stripping out. Not only does a person need quality tools to do our jobs but they need to use quality fasteners

I used thousands of socket head capscrews, and many hundred button heads, in my business. Never had much problems with them stripping out. (Everything from 6-32bh to 1/2-13 capscrews.)
I did round out a few of the smaller Allen keys. I think the,bolts, even button heads were harder.

 

[440 4 speed]

You mean slotted screws so that everyone with a rounded off flat screwdriver can really bugger up the screws?

The best and only screw I use by choice now (and for the past 10 years or more) is the square drive aka the Robertson screw. Almost 100% guaranteed not to slip or break.....except Stainless steel versions. I only use the SS square drive screws for soft applications - cedar or plastic etc....never in hard woods ....and I am very cautious when using them outdoors in concrete or brick.

They are so good you can even get the next size down driver, and they still undo without issues.

I like your first comment about flat screw drivers.
Another story, 1970 Myself, my wife, and brother-in-law drove our 1964 Custom 500 Ford to Glendive Montana for the drag races. Ran into a rear axle wheel bearing problem. After the races, someone suggested we go to this particular service station. We arrived two young guys thought they could fix it. I suggested that if they let me into the back I could do it or give them advice. No go. After an hour I asked if they could call the owner. He came down, turned out that one was his son. As he was working on the car, he noticed an interior car warmer screwed to the dash. Didn’t know what it was. Wanted to buy it. I said okay, then he wanted to know what those square headed screws were, so I told him, then he asked if I had the screwdriver I said yes. He wanted to buy everything because no one else would have one.
He was so pleased, he offered us a real deal on 4 tires that we couldn’t resist.
Since you have Robertson screws, do they turn in the same direction as the water drains heh heh??!!

 

[Scott Engelhardt]

I used thousands of socket head capscrews, and many hundred button heads, in my business. Never had much problems with them stripping out. (Everything from 6-32bh to 1/2-13 capscrews.)
I did round out a few of the smaller Allen keys. I think the,bolts, even button heads were harder.

These are in a high rust and corrosion area.

 

[33 IMP]

These are in a high rust and corrosion area.

That explains a bit.
Mine were used on new graphic arts cameras.

 

[RJ Squirrel]

Another spawn of Satan

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The A-hole screw

 

[toolmanmike]

Another spawn of Satan

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[kiwigtx]

Since you have Robertson screws, do they turn in the same direction as the water drains heh heh??!!

 

[kiwigtx]

I like your first comment about flat screw drivers.
Another story, 1970 Myself, my wife, and brother-in-law drove our 1964 Custom 500 Ford to Glendive Montana for the drag races. Ran into a rear axle wheel bearing problem. After the races, someone suggested we go to this particular service station. We arrived two young guys thought they could fix it. I suggested that if they let me into the back I could do it or give them advice. No go. After an hour I asked if they could call the owner. He came down, turned out that one was his son. As he was working on the car, he noticed an interior car warmer screwed to the dash. Didn’t know what it was. Wanted to buy it. I said okay, then he wanted to know what those square headed screws were, so I told him, then he asked if I had the screwdriver I said yes. He wanted to buy everything because no one else would have one.
He was so pleased, he offered us a real deal on 4 tires that we couldn’t resist.
Since you have Robertson screws, do they turn in the same direction as the water drains heh heh??!!

I wanted to give you a Thanks and a Like.

 

[padam]

You mean slotted screws so that everyone with a rounded off flat screwdriver can really bugger up the screws?

The best and only screw I use by choice now (and for the past 10 years or more) is the square drive aka the Robertson screw. Almost 100% guaranteed not to slip or break.....except Stainless steel versions. I only use the SS square drive screws for soft applications - cedar or plastic etc....never in hard woods ....and I am very cautious when using them outdoors in concrete or brick.

They are so good you can even get the next size down driver, and they still undo without issues.

Nice thing about square drive is sometimes they will work on a stripped Phillips head.

Torx and especially torx plus (or IP improved) are used on a lot of inserted cutting tools.

I have had to buy torque limited drivers for every size so my machine operators don’t destroy things on a regular basis.

 

[Hey-O]

I still use Premier Supertanium hex headed bolts for about everything. I use their files and they have the very best taps I have ever used. I can per drill for a 1/4 inch tap and run it through 1/4 inch steel in a variable speed drill. The company was bought out by Lawson years ago and I don't think they're still in business anymore. They were like ARP and I still have a bunch of the bolts in an assortment of sizes. When the plant closed they were thrown away with everything else and I took them home, by the bucket full. I'd been buying them for the plant for years and they were expensive as hell and strong. I put one car back together with nothing but them.