Trunk mount battery Mad Electrical

[ram250098]

I have a 68 Runner that was an old drag car, so some of the wiring is not as it should be. It has a sealed trunk with a nice battery box built into it...so I am moving the battery and the solenoid back to the trunk and clean up the engine bay.
I was looking on the Mad electrical site and was wondering if the set up they have will work in our Mopars, I don't see why it wouldn't but I don't know for sure.
The one pic shows only one wire to the starter where as mine has two, is the smaller wire needed?
Or are some other wires required.
Thanks
AL

 

[1badgtx]

I just ordered a wiring set up from MAD...Mark is a great guy and has alot of experience in automotive electrical...Yes he knows mopars well...Give him a call he,ll steer you in the right direction for sure..
Petty Blue 67 GTX

 

[beezee]

Hey Al ,No problem wiring the car this way, it,s adding a little safety by keeping live battery powered wires from shorting against the exhaust at the starter, by moving battery power from the starter terminal to a terminal block and using a solenoid to power the starter when cranking.

 

[ram250098]

Thanks Rick, I picked up a nice terminal block from Gord at ZZ today, if it warms up a tad I might start the move this weekend.
Thanks BADGTX I was looking at those kits but thought I would go a bit larger on the wire gauge, mine you your will look more colorful than my welding cable LOL
AL

 

[ram250098]

Just a bit of advice needed. I am a bit of a D$^k sometimes and tend to over think things and screw myself up LOL.
The small wire on the starter {brown} gets it's power from the starter solenoid. Now I am using a Ford solenoid in the trunk, but plan on putting a distribution block under the hood to run my alt wire and branch off from there.
So any advice on where would be a good place to run the small starter wire from.
AL

 

[beezee]

Al, if your using the original starter relay on the firewall the brown wire stays the same to activate the starter solenoid when cranked from the key. Looking at the mad diagram this may be the accessory relay as battery power is connected to the starter relay and the fuse-able link blue wire into the bulkhead . If your going to use the ford solenoid on its own and want eliminate the original start relay install a jumper across the starter terminals and remove the brown wire

 

[ram250098]

Ya see....to much reading and thinking...LOL... I didn't think you could do that...I read it somewhere LOL
Thanks Rick
AL

 

[GTXKen]

I used some of the mad stuff when I did mine, if I remember correctly the ignition wire that you used to go to the relay now goes to the relay in the trunk which powers up the big cable. You use the big cable to power up both the motor and the starter solenoid, that why you make a jumper to go between the big lug and the little on the starter. My started relay is under the dash where I have a power lug, fuse box, MSD, coil, etc

 

[beezee]

Hey Al ,Myself would keep the factory start relay and activate the solenoid in the trunk with a hidden switch as an anti theft device. Groundhog saying were having an early spring if you need a hand let me know.
Rick

 

[ram250098]

Thank for the picture Ken, I think that is the plan. I knew I had to bring the one wire back for the solenoid, just was unsure on the jumper thing...LOL
Rick the factory solenoid is long gone, so I am using what I have. Most of the stuff I got from work and the power block from ZZ.
Thanks for the advice and the offer for help but I hate laying on the cold concrete so I am not asking anyone else to LOL.
Being on a dirt road...having an early spring doesn't mean much...damn township...can't pave it *G*
AL

 

[GTXKen]

If you have an automatic you will still need to wire in the original style starter relay for the nutural safety switch and then wire it to the solenoid in the trunk. In the upper right hand corner you can see where the solenoid and fuse are mounted in the trunk. I will have to see if I can dig up aanything on what I did...

 

[beezee]

Hey Al, GTXKen is correct on the safety switch, the yellow wire on the back of the key switch is the start wire to the starter relay or solenoid now in the trunk. Check the switch on the transmission as it should provide the ground for the relay . In 68 the trans neutral switch has only 1 wire connection providing "ground" in park or neutral.

 

[ram250098]

Thanks guy's for the input. I was under the car on the weekend and I see the safety switch but it has nothing attached to it....NADA...ZIP...ZERO...LOL
Guess I gotta do one bug at a time.....
It is supposed to get warmer this weekend, maybe I will get back under her this weekend end...as well as the car LOL
AL

 

[screwterminalblock]

the main box looks like a power distribution box, it's just a safety feature to keep your battery from shorting. you would be fine either way, let me know if you have any questions!