UAW/Chrysler Sell-Out!!!

[plymouth67]

I feel like unions protect people who shouldnt have thier jobs to begin with, because they are lazy or under skilled for the job. There WAS a time and place for unions to protect the rights of workers and to improve working conditions. That time has past as the unions dont have the power over these companies as most of them dont make every piece of thier product, so most parts going in to the finished product is made by an outside supplier wich are mostly non-union. Wich means they will get there parts from there suppliers if they are on strike or not and, they will hire scabs or put office people to assemble the finished product,therefore the union has no power over the main company. Plus there is O.S.H.A. and the labor ralations board to protect against bad working conditions and they do not take your money to protect you. Unions were the start of this and they had there time but are not needed in todays work place. Thats my thought on it and not tryin to piss any union guys off.

 

[fester91]

if you had bought chrysler stock when issued invested more each month reinvested the dividends by my calculations now you would be broke the same with all manufacturers. wish my union brothers well but we have gave away our manufacturing base

 

[Deleted member 214]

I thought Obama was going to fix all this. First thing he did was freeze any raises on the people who could afford it the least, S.S. folks on fixed income. OK let the flaming begin.

Check out http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/latestCOLA.html. The president has no control over whether or not a Cost of Living Adjustment (COLA) is given to Social Security recipients. The Social Security Administration has to go by a set formula that no president can change. Obama had as much control over the COLA adjustments as Bush did - NONE!

 

[67 B-body]

I've seen two companys pull up in the past 10 years or so in my area. This was a direct result of the Union.... I see little good in it!
My employment is Non-Union and stable,,,, I'm sure there are plenty ex- union employees wishing they could say the same! Mostly I see them waging themselves out of work!

 

[Cranky]

A company with good management doesn't need a union....and for OSHA, you have to get them to come out on a complaint if the company isn't following the rules. With a decent union, you can actually shut down the job BEFORE someone gets hurt or killed and make the company comply while waiting for OSHA to show up. A lot of companies preach 'safety first' then tell lower management to get the job done at whatever the cost.....need a union for that crap or be fired. Shouldn't need a union for that chit but I've seen it happen time and time again and I know someone that lost their life because of it.

 

[super-bee_ski]

Sorry to hear your anguish man! I'm like "yellowdartdave". I NEVER worked for a Union. 20 + years in the Air Force and now another 10 so far as Air Force civillian (Edwards AFB, CA). Some of my team mates are Lockheed-Martin and Boeing. They are Union and they HAVE to go with the "prevailing winds/strike". Sadly, this is a commentary that is much like "splitting hairs". On one side, your company made 230 mil last quater, BUT: what if it went broke? OOps! I forgot, Obama would bail them out again with your money!!! When will it ever end? But, at least you have a RESPECTABLE job! A job is a good thing these days!

 

[Finallygotmine]

Had a discussion with a union buddy of mine and he said that he gives 800 bucks a year to the union and that he has a choice to give partial payment of that to charity or let the union give it to the democrats. He said no one yet has had the balls to cave. I called bullshit on him as he was talking tough.
Why don't you union workers REALLY have a UNION moment and call yourselves together and vote in your OWN leadership!! You don't need these thugs to "negotiate" with the company. Since when, are there really "open" negotiations anyways?
I worked for a union (company) in the nineties. Oh the union and the company were real close and it got us nothing. We were still profitable, but when we were bought out we were closed down in 3 months anyways. So much for being in a union. Fricken waste. Then in union meetings, we sent some union money to some of our "brothers" in other mills to help them in there time of strike. Yeah, worked out to about 20 bucks per person per month. I bet that really helped. They just won't tell you where all the money is going cause you would revolt if you really knew.

I dare you union people to demand to really see the books and call for an audit of where your money is going. After all, it's your money.

 

[69rtse4spd]

union

They will never let that happen. They are worse then the goverment in getting friends & family on the payrole. What good is a strike fund if you have a no strike clause in your contract. If the rank & file really knew what was going on they would revolt. Just my thoughts.

 

[Darius]

Why do you all think our Gov't is so fucked up???
Look at California. If EVER there was a UNION state this is it!
"Labor" drives everything in Calif government. I Understand the importance of tax base income to run gov't and provide services BUT..look at ALL the cities around the country that are on the verge of bankruptcy and see what their BIGGEST problem is......unfunded retirement obligations! Where do you think those obligations came from?
Since when should it be put to a PUBLIC vote weather or not the Unions can use the membership dues to donate to public officials or initiative campaign funds? This should not be a LAW! If the union members were in support the union "leadership" wouldn't have to put it to a vote. Underhanded bullshit, typical Union activities.