What do you want to see in a movie?

[Phantom440]

Hey all, I wasn't sure where else to post this, so I hope you'll forgive me and give me a moment of your time.
I have a dream of making the ultimate car movie. Right now I'm working on a script. I went to film school, and intend on raising the money to begin preproduction soon.
I've been a lifelong Mopar guy, and I'm just as sick as you guys are of seeing our cars get wrecked- so there won't be any muscle car destruction.
Maybe a GM.

So that aside, what would you guys like to see in a movie?
If it's simple things, like you're tired of hearing cars upshift 14 times, or more elaborate things, like you want to see someone go through the process of building a car, the headaches, the rust in the eye, the skinned knuckles, etc... I'd love to hear it.

 

[WileE]

Generally, cars, women, rock- n-roll. If you'd like me to be more specific, then, classic cars, classic women, and classic rock-n-roll.

 

[72Fourspeed]

Boobs.

 

[Hemi Rebel]

This is a tough one. I always thought a remake of 2 lane black top would be good. Or hot rod with Gregg henry. Im in MD too. If you need actors and cars let me know

 

[steelone]

:headbang:to lane blacktop good choice.

 

[Rick@Laysons]

I think it'd be neat to see a period correct movie about real world muscle cars in real world situations along the lines of something like American Graffiti. Maybe something set in the early to mid 70's when the first gas crunch came along and people were practically giving these cars away and buying every Pinto and Vega they could get their hands on.

Teenagers back then had a heyday beatin the snot out of these cheap muscle rides for every horsepower they were worth....and were having the time of their lives doing it!

 

[steelone]

I originate from modesto ca. used to buy them all day long $600 to 1.000 dollars all day long . if i only knew.lol

 

[Speedbird]

I want to see the protagonist in a 68 or 69 Road Runner for a change.
And not one with a fake supercharger sticking out of the hood.

 

[Phantom440]

Thank you for all the replies!
A couple of things- girls and boobs- hell yes. Already planning on those.
As far as a period piece, I would love to do that eventually, but seeing as this is gonna be my first or second full-length movie, the budget is gonna be tight- movies set in a certain era cost more- all the cars have to be a certain era, the clothes, the props... and personally, I hate movies set in the 50s where every last car looks fresh from a restoration, with all the options and fresh wide whites, etc.
So this one will be set in present day, but I would love to do a film set post-gas crisis.
As badass as a '68 or '69 Road Runner would be, as of now the protagonist is gonna drive an ex-cop '71 Coronet. Mainly because 4-doors are cheap, and I'm going to need at least two to film with- God forbid a stunt goes wrong and I mash it up.
If I did that to a Road Runner, I'd break down and cry.

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Also, music and pre-existing "properties", like a remake, would be way too expensive. I'd like to work with several unsigned bands with a style similar to AC/DC, Pantera, CCR, Zeppelin, etc to provide the soundtrack.
That way if the movie does well, it can get them exposure as well.

 

[WileE]

Teenagers back then had a heyday beatin the snot out of these cheap muscle rides for every horsepower they were worth....and were having the time of their lives doing it![/QUOTE] Yes, indeed. We most certainly did.

 

[HT413]

I'd love to see a prequel to Gran Torino. Give some back story to the man and to his car. Maybe he works on the assembly line, maybe he earns the car somehow and rebuilds it. Hugh Jackman plays lead.

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I know it's not a MOPAR, but hey why don't we add a couple in somehow.

 

[bobtile]

If you could possibly round up all mustangs and light them on fire, that would make me happy. That and boobs as was stated earlier.

 

[Hemi Rebel]

Well, I know everyone wants the requisite cars, girls and rock and roll, but I urge you to find and watch this movie. So you know what not to do. This was worse than ****. The acting was of equal quality, but nobody was getting laid.

 

[Photon440]

I want to see the protagonist in a 68 or 69 Road Runner for a change.
And not one with a fake supercharger sticking out of the hood.

Like Mel Gibson in Payback?
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[Basket case]

combine the two Vanishing Points(mainly the desert scene, have the chic from the second one be the one riding the bike necked)and have a happy ending where Kowalski gets medicine to his sick wife(that's the real reason for the high speed) and no crashing the Challenger.

 

[Phantom440]

Hemi Rebel,
I've never heard of Finish Line, but seeing the trailer on Youtube, it looks pretty awful.
The website associated with it is down... probably has been awhile.
I tried looking for it, couldn't find it online anywhere (at least without downloading some virus-filled "viewer" to watch it). How did you see it? I'm always open to watching bad movies, especially ones that may be similar, content-wise, to mine, to learn what works and what doesn't.

This may not be the right forum for this, but this thread seems to have died off, so I'll say/ask this-
Does anyone else feel Vanishing Point (the original), may have been a modern day retelling of Jesus' last hours?

(spoilers ahead, if you haven't seen it)

Stick with me, this might get weird... I apologize for this, I've had this opinion for awhile and never really had anyone to talk with about it... my film professors would usually shrug it off, probably because they didn't want to watch "a car chase movie"...

Just a few observations/thoughts- I know people like to bring up how "existential" the movie is, which for me, means they know there's something there that they can't put their finger on. You could take any mess of a movie that leaves you with questions and say it's "existential". I don't necessarily buy that.

On the surface, Kowalski takes a bunch of speed pills and drives fast, pisses off the cops. They chase him because... why? Because they're told to chase him? Even the cops speculate on why they're after him. Something like "maybe he killed somebody... maybe he stole that dude of his"... but they don't know, they're just doing what they're told- up to and including lethal force, where Kowalski is crucified on the bulldozers.

The movie shows several times where Kowalski tries to do what's "right"- he tries to be a policeman, then corruption on the force gets him discharged. He was a veteran. If Jesus had been born around, say, 1940, he may have taken similar career paths- trying to do the right thing, only to run into evil everywhere.

Throughout the film, Kowalski resists temptation. The friend that gives him the speed offers girls- Kowalski rejects them. The naked girl on the bike offers him similarly- he politely rejects it.

And by "disobeying" the government (think of the cops as Roman soldiers), Kowalski slowly and surely builds a following. Disciples, maybe.
There are several crosses seen throughout the film- his tire tracks in the desert, the backs of road signs, etc...

Then there's the soundtrack- a heavy mix of classic rock greats and gospel music.

And the biggest scene that "makes" this theory make sense for me, is the scene in the desert where Kowalski is confronted by the "serpent"- both the snake itself and J.Hovah, flicking his tongue (false prophet, maybe?)... in the desert, he runs into the old man. The old man routinely calls Kowalski "son", and after saving him, telling him how to get out of the desert, Kowalski says, "thanks, Pop". Could that have been God pulling Jesus away from the desert, through the angels?

I'm not sure where Super Soul(!!) fits into this- is he Judas, betraying Kowalski at the end?

I realize all of this may be a huge stretch... but that's how I see it, anyway. There are those say that Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" was a critique on our going into Iraq, or Henry Fonda in "My Darling Clementine" was supposed to represent the US getting pulled into WWII. These opinions may be right, they may be wrong, and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... but I think it could lend a lot of importance to a movie a lot of people dismiss as "a dude takes drugs and drives a lot"...

 

[benno440]

Mopars, Pro touring mopars, bad guys driving awesome mopars, good guys driving shitty mustangs. boobs, massive car chases, no mopar destruction. no shitty acting, no men kissing.

just played a game called watchdogs, really good story, maybe something similar but the main guy drives a sweet mopar. preferably a pro touring 68 charger ohh yeh

 

[HT413]

Hemi Rebel,
I've never heard of Finish Line, but seeing the trailer on Youtube, it looks pretty awful.
The website associated with it is down... probably has been awhile.
I tried looking for it, couldn't find it online anywhere (at least without downloading some virus-filled "viewer" to watch it). How did you see it? I'm always open to watching bad movies, especially ones that may be similar, content-wise, to mine, to learn what works and what doesn't.

This may not be the right forum for this, but this thread seems to have died off, so I'll say/ask this-
Does anyone else feel Vanishing Point (the original), may have been a modern day retelling of Jesus' last hours?

(spoilers ahead, if you haven't seen it)

Stick with me, this might get weird... I apologize for this, I've had this opinion for awhile and never really had anyone to talk with about it... my film professors would usually shrug it off, probably because they didn't want to watch "a car chase movie"...

Just a few observations/thoughts- I know people like to bring up how "existential" the movie is, which for me, means they know there's something there that they can't put their finger on. You could take any mess of a movie that leaves you with questions and say it's "existential". I don't necessarily buy that.

On the surface, Kowalski takes a bunch of speed pills and drives fast, pisses off the cops. They chase him because... why? Because they're told to chase him? Even the cops speculate on why they're after him. Something like "maybe he killed somebody... maybe he stole that dude of his"... but they don't know, they're just doing what they're told- up to and including lethal force, where Kowalski is crucified on the bulldozers.

The movie shows several times where Kowalski tries to do what's "right"- he tries to be a policeman, then corruption on the force gets him discharged. He was a veteran. If Jesus had been born around, say, 1940, he may have taken similar career paths- trying to do the right thing, only to run into evil everywhere.

Throughout the film, Kowalski resists temptation. The friend that gives him the speed offers girls- Kowalski rejects them. The naked girl on the bike offers him similarly- he politely rejects it.

And by "disobeying" the government (think of the cops as Roman soldiers), Kowalski slowly and surely builds a following. Disciples, maybe.
There are several crosses seen throughout the film- his tire tracks in the desert, the backs of road signs, etc...

Then there's the soundtrack- a heavy mix of classic rock greats and gospel music.

And the biggest scene that "makes" this theory make sense for me, is the scene in the desert where Kowalski is confronted by the "serpent"- both the snake itself and J.Hovah, flicking his tongue (false prophet, maybe?)... in the desert, he runs into the old man. The old man routinely calls Kowalski "son", and after saving him, telling him how to get out of the desert, Kowalski says, "thanks, Pop". Could that have been God pulling Jesus away from the desert, through the angels?

I'm not sure where Super Soul(!!) fits into this- is he Judas, betraying Kowalski at the end?

I realize all of this may be a huge stretch... but that's how I see it, anyway. There are those say that Spielberg's "War of the Worlds" was a critique on our going into Iraq, or Henry Fonda in "My Darling Clementine" was supposed to represent the US getting pulled into WWII. These opinions may be right, they may be wrong, and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... but I think it could lend a lot of importance to a movie a lot of people dismiss as "a dude takes drugs and drives a lot"...

Wow you've put a lot of thought into Vanishing Point. I do the same, much to my wife's frustration and boredom. I see where you're going with it though and sure, I buy it.

 

[Montclaire]

Well with any story line the vehicles will have to play background to the actual story - the human interest angle that makes the film watchable to a wider audience. You might want to check out 'Highwaymen,' which was not half bad. Think of the film as a Western and the cars are like horses - how much time do they really spend on the horse?

Vanishing Point was certainly a period piece so I would not try to copy that. Two Lane Blacktop is as well, but has more to emulate in how it was shot. Our cars are very sensory in nature, and you need to find subtle ways to bring that out. Two Lane had basically no background music so you were able to experience the rhythm of the car. American Graffiti was clever in that they used car radios as the focus of sound generation, and as cars entered or left scenes the audio would be manipulated and diminished.

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Here's an idea, how about a play on 'GTO' from Two Lane. Warren played a bit of an odd straight man against the crew in the chevy and most of the passengers that he picked up along the way. There was an editorial in maybe HP Mopar a long way back that described a friend of the writer, I believe his name was Frankie and he owned a Hemi b-body. I will never forget the description of Frankie and the only two shirts he owned, each said Hemi across the chest; one was dirty for when he was under the hood, and the other was clean for when he was driving. That is your lead. Have him travel in an attempt to find himself or America or whatever, and delve into his interaction with the current freaks of this generation.

 

[5.7 hemi]

Sex, drugs, cars, and violence. The drugs, cars, and violence are optional.