What is considered a re-body

[Dreamcatcher]

I am going to open once again the much heated discussion on what is considered a re-body and what is legal and what is not. How about the new chop cut rebuild. Their building a Daytona charger. And from what I seen the only parts saved were the cowl one door and one frame rail. If that isn't a re-body what is? Legal ? They will still claim it as a Daytona (not a clone)

 

[BeeKool]

Good question. I have a couple of pickup trucks thato I put together from various others. They are registered and titled.

Does it make a difference if it's a framed vehicle or a uni-body?

Does it mainly apply to valuable vehicles where originality is important?

 

[Bladecutter]

I am going to open once again the much heated discussion on what is considered a re-body and what is legal and what is not. How about the new chop cut rebuild. Their building a Daytona charger. And from what I seen the only parts saved were the cowl one door and one frame rail. If that isn't a re-body what is? Legal ? They will still claim it as a Daytona (not a clone)

My opinion only......if 51% of the metal in a uni-body is replaced,, it's a re-body.

 

[Speedbird]

Where's my popcorn?

 

[Speedbird]

My opinion only......if 51% of the metal in a uni-body is replaced,, it's a re-body.

Does it make a difference if the replacement metal is AMD reproduction or is that 51 exclusively from another car?

 

[toolmanmike]

I would consider using another car and switching VIN tags, radiator support stamping and trunk rail stamps a re-body. There are a lot of cars now days that end up with mostly new sheet metal to make them whole again. Just my take.

 

[Bladecutter]

Does it make a difference if the replacement metal is AMD reproduction or is that 51 exclusively from another car?

Good question. New sheet metal versus donor sheet metal makes
an interesting point.......my statement is only gut speculation, I have no verifiable documented info. Just a "glass half full or half empty" application of logic."
The popcorn is a good call, ,,this thread isn't wasting time getting spooled up,,LOL.
I'd say some points have to be given n favor of using OEM donor sheet as opposed to new repop.

 

[BeatersRus]

Good question. I have a couple of pickup trucks thato I put together from various others. They are registered and titled.

Does it make a difference if it's a framed vehicle or a uni-body?

Does it mainly apply to valuable vehicles where originality is important?

in new york state,if the staties decided to run all your numbers,
that truck would get impounded and you would have to prove a lot of things fairly quickly.

as an example,theres a former scrapper who was a real piece of work,
he got pulled over one day and they ran his numbers,
mainly because the idiot had 15 diff colors on truck/various parts.
cab was off one,bed off another,engine from yet another,
and the chassis wasnt even same vin.
he got arrested and never ever got his truck back either.
not much later,he went out of business and now does flea markets..
chuckles profusely.

as far as this rebody biz goes,
i find it highly ironic that shops can do this and its never really talked about,
but let a reg guy do it and whoa!hes a criminal!
no matter what tho,it ISNT the original car,so its a Fraud,period.
even if it does save a hemicuda,or some rare beast.

 

[BeatersRus]

and hey,how about the flip side?
what if,youve just bought a 69 superbee,cars brand new minty fresh
and were the happiest guy in the world!

and Then,you saw pics of your former car,as a pile of rust,
rotted in half,clearly a total loss and then realize you own a Rebody.
what would you feel like then?

 

[toolmanmike]

If you have a shell that you want to resurrect and you have a clean, complete donor car, it would be awfully hard to cut the donor car apart to make the shell complete again. That I would consider a re-body. Tough call. I have a dentist appointment today so no popcorn for me. LOL

 

[BeatersRus]

If you have a shell that you want to resurrect and you have a clean, complete donor car, it would be awfully hard to cut the donor car apart to make the shell complete again. That I would consider a re-body. Tough call. I have a dentist appointment today so no popcorn for me. LOL

funny part is,bitd,shops did this all the time,
it wasnt even considered a bad thing,you were saving the car...lol
there Was some scumbags even back then i knew a guy who would change base chargers into r/t-s.

thanks for saying that about the donor car because its such an important point.
that moment,when you are standing there,looking at both and saying to yourself.
im going to have to do allllllllllll that.
or
i can just do this instead.

 

[WP29440SE]

If you have a car, say a 68 charger that was missing the dash VIN when you aquired it and the only way you could get it "legal" were to buy a "parts" car and take the dash VIN off and stick in the other car , that would be a crime not a rebody. If you were to take the same two and take ALL the components and pieces with their respective "numbers" and chop cut weld install them onto the other car and intend to pass it off as such , that would be a rebody

 

[BeatersRus]

If you have a car, say a 68 charger that was missing the dash VIN when you aquired it and the only way you could get it "legal" were to buy a "parts" car and take the dash VIN off and stick in the other car , that would be a crime not a rebody. If you were to take the same two and take ALL the components and pieces with their respective "numbers" and chop cut weld install them onto the other car and intend to pass it off as such , that would be a rebody

wheres Dave when you need him?
lol

and hey,if you sell that car and dont tell anyone its a rebody,
isnt that a crime as well?

 

[Bladecutter]

I'll have a 'double up' popcorn w extra butter.

wheres Dave when you need him?
lol

and hey,if you sell that car and dont tell anyone its a rebody,
isnt that a crime as well?

******* Hilarious Rus!!!

 

[BeatersRus]

lol id best behave afore i get one of them thar Mods up on my beehind

 

[toolmanmike]

lol id best behave afore i get one of them thar Mods up on my beehind

You're good Russ!

 

[rcb]

in new york state,if the staties decided to run all your numbers,
that truck would get impounded and you would have to prove a lot of things fairly quickly.

as an example,theres a former scrapper who was a real piece of work,
he got pulled over one day and they ran his numbers,
mainly because the idiot had 15 diff colors on truck/various parts.
cab was off one,bed off another,engine from yet another,
and the chassis wasnt even same vin.
he got arrested and never ever got his truck back either.
not much later,he went out of business and now does flea markets..
chuckles profusely.

as far as this rebody biz goes,
i find it highly ironic that shops can do this and its never really talked about,
but let a reg guy do it and whoa!hes a criminal!
no matter what tho,it ISNT the original car,so its a Fraud,period.
even if it does save a hemicuda,or some rare beast.

Here in Indiana, it's perfectly legal and common to have pieces from different vehicles. If it's a cab and chassis, you do a combined vehicle title. No one here cares about motors, but if you need to get a title for a car without a title, doing a combined title is often the easiest route for getting one. And to be honest, I have never witnessed or heard of an officer here checking anything but the vin plate unless it's suspected stolen. Police have better things to do.

In my opinion I think you need at least 50% of the original vehicle's welded and drive train parts. Things like doors, fenders and hood don't impact me much and I wouldn't care if it was on a showroom fresh car I bought. However, I would never pay some of the prices they ask either... even if I was a multimillionaire. Once you get north of 6 figures for just one car, I just don't have much interest in owning. Much better things to spend money on in my opinion without the worry. But that's just me, I never had any interest in owning trailer queens.

 

[Bladecutter]

lol id best behave afore i get one of them thar Mods up on my beehind

Yea', I was told to never mention anything related ever again.....I'm still LMAO! I think Crankster will secretly chuckle though.
BTW....MN 74 & I buried the hatchet.........even TC paid me a Public compliment a while back.
Trump in the Oval......think this is going to be one Kick *** Year!!

 

[BeatersRus]

wow,indiana has it easy..sounds Great lol
combined title? sounds a lot better than what we have.

here we would have to go for a reconstructed title,
and have it inspected at a special garage/state in the city and they check everything.

as far as police checking things,a couple of years ago,
scrap was at its highest ever,and a bazillion people jumped into scrapping.
stuff started getting stolen,owners were not getting paid,
ripped off,parts of loads would come off and hit innocents,
and allll sorts of bad things were happening.
the Real scrappers,like myself,who had been doing it for years,
all got lumped into the scrappers are bad mentality and
police were checking everything,and hey i dont blame them.
i myself have never had problems with the cops besides the occasional speeding ticket n meh they caught me,who cares.
i was speeding! lol!

and Jimi,i actually behaved n didnt use his former handle ;)
does that count??
and Dave,if yer reading this,sorry,but,i couldnt resist.
im sure you understand.

 

[MarPar]