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[BeepBeepRR]

The one thing I hate now is having to install AFCI breakers... Those things are worthless.

 

[BeepBeepRR]

Here is a picture of KNob and Tube wring.. Tubes go through the wood and the knobs are what the wire hooks up to for routing.

 

[kiwigtx]

The one thing I hate now is having to install AFCI breakers... Those things are worthless.

Arc fault detector 10A 230V.....like the one as below (we are 230Volt single phase here - 400Volt 3 phase)

 

[BeepBeepRR]

Arc fault detector 10A 230V.....like the one as below (we are 230Volt single phase here - 400Volt 3 phase)

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Here in the Atlanta area its code to have an arcfault on any bedroom circuits.

 

[BeepBeepRR]

Here ya go Kiwi

 

[vintage chromoly]

I believe it’s in the NFPA 70 that all branch circuits within a dwelling are to be arc fault. Other than kitchen appliances circuits and bathroom circuits. GFCI, in that case

Here in the Atlanta area its code to have an arcfault on any bedroom circuits.

 

[BeepBeepRR]

Yea we go by the NEC here and I'm not sure when they implemented the arcfault breakers but I don't normally do residential. Mostly commercial electrical... Did mostly residential early in my career. But in the early 90s there weren't as many headaches.. Honeslty I don't think we ever had that book... lol So I'm unfamiliar with it.

 

[vintage chromoly]

The NEC is the NFPA 72.
It’s not a regional thing.

I’m a commercial industrial wireman as well. House work is for beer money.

Yea we go by the NEC here and I'm not sure when they implemented the arcfault breakers but I don't normally do residential. Mostly commercial electrical... Did mostly residential early in my career. But in the early 90s there weren't as many headaches.. Honeslty I don't think we ever had that book... lol So I'm unfamiliar with it.

edit:
My bad, I’m confusing the NFPA 72 (fire alarm code book) and the NEC (NFPA 70) Damn, I’ve been doing this **** for too long.

 

[kiwigtx]

Here is a picture of KNob and Tube wring.. Tubes go through the wood and the knobs are what the wire hooks up to for routing.
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That looks like a nightmare.

Running TPS in stud walls for a house is much easier the way we do it.

This is the 1930's house before I started...the picture that made the re-wire necessary...

Old fabric and rubber cables, bare live conductors, badly burnt fuse holders...

Two-way switch......lol....totally illegal to use Green and Black as live conductors...

Nice use of a concrete anchor bolt here...

Transition from rubber to bare-earth TPS cable...hidden by wood casing...

This was taken a day or so before completion...

 

[BeepBeepRR]

For 25 years I worked for the same company and was never made to do code classes or any of that. However I did have a code book handy. But, I'm not sure if its the same way there as it is around here but different counties enforced stuff that others didn't and it was a pain in the *** to make them all happy. So in some cases you would have one inspector just be a complete asshole. I did a house one time and failed my inspection.. I asked him why I failed, he said I had one wire stapled on its edge. I asked him where it was so I could fix it... That smartass told me to find it... What a dick.

 

[vintage chromoly]

“The authority having jurisdiction”

yeah, it’s a pain at times

 

[vintage chromoly]

Just looked it up the “NEC” ( the code book) is the NFPA 70.

ive been doing control work for awhile now. I used to run large industrial work, and knew the code book well. I haven’t cracked one in years.

 

[BeepBeepRR]

I think the last one I had was the 2009 code book. lol I mean not much changes from year to year but I guess I should have quit being cheap and bought the latest one. Also the Uglys book is a handy little tool to have around.

 

[vintage chromoly]

I like to consider the code a loose set of guidelines. Suggestions of the way one might go about an install.

inspectors love that, when I lay it on em.

 

[BeepBeepRR]

I like to consider the code a loose set of guidelines. Suggestions of the way one might go about an install.

inspectors love that, when I lay it on em.

Lol..Yea Mostly I have a good relationship with the inspectors.. But here we had 2 guys in particular that were absolute asshats. One Gwinett county inspector was John Brown.. We called him Turn em down John Brown. The other guy that turned me down for the one wire stapled on its edge went to a local bar and proceeded to get his *** kicked by another Electrician that had been one of the larger companies in our local town.. His name was Patrick Couch and he was a former City of Atlanta inspector.. He was a dipshit and looked like a low rent Billy Ray Cirus..

 

[moparmarks]

The NEC is chapter 70 of the National Fire Protection Association which has over 300 chapters. The NEC is a minimum requirement. The authority having jurisdiction
can require more on top of it.
My family was the 2nd largest EC in the state for a few decades and mainly did industrial and heavy commercial. Mines, hospitals, prisons and such. I was very blessed to be esposed to aspects of the trade that a lot of sparkies never saw. Did a lot of 15kv high power distribution, motor control, temperature control and life safety, fire alarm, systems. Yep, residential was beer money. I did design and install of fire alarm but I got out of it in the mid-90's right when the smart addressable systems were coming out. I did the multiplex systems. I got out of the trade in 2003 and started my classic automotive parts and restorations business. If I never turn another wire nut in my life will be just fine by me.
If you want to see some funky electrical go to Mexico. They use indoor rated panels for outdoor services. Wiring just hanging loose everywhere.

 

[WileE]

Oh... from the title, I thought you were referring to me.

 

[moparmarks]

Inspectors, engineers and non-paying customers are some of reasons I got out of it. That and my body was just getting to jacked up.
Inspectors who thought they were god and you were in god's country
Engineers who thought since they could put it on paper that it could be installed that way.
Customers who didn't pay until you had them on the steps of the courthouse.

 

[Builderguy]

Last set of books I had to use and didn't plan on opening a code book again. With the way this election might go, I may have to sell the house (while the selling is good) and build a smaller one with the proceeds. In that case, I will have to buy a 2020 book. I used to know all the inspectors but I am sure that has changed in the last 6 years.

 

[YY1]

I was an electrical apprentice from 88 to 91.

I learned enough to know that's not what I wanted to do with the rest of my life.

Did mainly commercial and light industrial.

I still have my "wiggy", knockout set and pipe benders. Bent 3/4" EMT pipe 2 weeks ago.

Good skills to have.