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Why Mopar is better than GM

Wedgeamacallit

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Example:
Small Block Chevy
Valve train sucks just how Rusty mentioned before
Connecting Rods suck. If you plan on any horsepower or rpm you have to replace them
You have to use a 4 bolt main block or make the 2 bolt main block stronger with splayed caps
Have to go with screw in studs and guideplates
Have to go with hardened pushrods with the guideplates
How often do you see GM cars running "factory" GM castings that make good power? Mopar owners were strapped for many years making power with
factory castings before we finally had some aftermarket options.
Cam locking plate due to "cam walk"
GM guys make fun of what a Chrysler starter sounds like. I rather have a Chrysler starter than a GM starter. GM starters have to be shimmed just right or you
hear the famous grind.
How about the GM rear ends that use C clips? Love that idea. Lets spit axles out the side of the car
You always hear the famous "Chrysler are too expensive to build" My Chevy is so much cheaper. They are cheaper to build at the start but they do not last as long.
I have friends that ran small block chevy for drag cars. They had to tear them down every year and freshen them up. The Mopar friends I have that raced would run 2-3 years sometimes 4 years before a freshen up. Plus the Mopar engines would have more factory parts in it than a chevy. The only thing I can think of that would be factory in their engine would be the block and even then, most are using GM performance Bowtie blocks.
I had a 1970 318 satellite as my first car. I put a stock 340 intake on it, stock 340 cam, headers, and a 355 gear. I used to school so many small block gm with that car it was hilarious. I'm talking engines with similiar modifications. I understand why the aftermarket has catered to the small block chevy. They have been around forever and they need aftermarket parts to function. So when you have to build your Mopar and are frustrated that you have to order the part or pay more, just think of the better investment and quality that you are working with.
 
If you would have came up against a 70 1/2 Z28 370HP 350 camaro or a 350HP 327 powered 67 Chevy II,i'm pretty sure you would of been schooled,and bad.Rusty must have been spanked bad at one time from a GM car for hating them so bad.I do agree that mopar does have a excellent drivetrain but the bodies themselves leave a litte bit to be desired.
 
I agree that you have a better starting point from the factory with a Mopar engine.

I used to love telling gm guys- we don't have a 4 bolt anything, must not need it.

I spanked MANY a built 350 gm motor with a carefully tuned, stock 318 2 barrel.
In fact, during my high school street racing days I NEVER lost to a gm product.

I would also say that an A body 340 Barracuda (or Duster) could hold it's own with the high power to weight ratio 327 Nova or even the 350 z28.
 
If you would have came up against a 70 1/2 Z28 370HP 350 camaro or a 350HP 327 powered 67 Chevy II,i'm pretty sure you would of been schooled,and bad.Rusty must have been spanked bad at one time from a GM car for hating them so bad.I do agree that mopar does have a excellent drivetrain but the bodies themselves leave a litte bit to be desired.


with all due respect, all you do is talk **** about mopars and talk about how great chevy is. WHY are you even here? because theres money in it? every post i read from you is chevy is the **** and mopar sucks in one way or another. geeze man , jump in your comode and fly on over to Z28.com and mopar bash... just sayin'

what part of chevy sucks dont you get? LOL
 
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Wow wanna drag. You knocking back some more cold ones this early? I said in my post that my 1970 318 handled small block chevy with similiar mods. I wouldn't really say a 350hp small block from GM would be considered similiar mods but while we are on the topic, my "275" hp 340 duster really didn't have much problems taking 350's to school. The point of my post isn't saying Mopar are always faster or my cars were always faster. No matter what the brand, you will always come across someone faster. Mopar are just better no matter how fast and thats the bottom line.
 
You must live to put words in peoples mouths because you'll not find one place where I said I hate GM cars. Speak for yourself bigmouth.

If you would have came up against a 70 1/2 Z28 370HP 350 camaro or a 350HP 327 powered 67 Chevy II,i'm pretty sure you would of been schooled,and bad.Rusty must have been spanked bad at one time from a GM car for hating them so bad.I do agree that mopar does have a excellent drivetrain but the bodies themselves leave a litte bit to be desired.
 
...and I've personally seen 340 Dusters whip built BIG BLOCK gm F bodies!!

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...and while we're at it, my 383 70 Super Bee with a "not reccomended 284/484 cam" and stock converter with 3.55 rear whooped the hell outa a 427 badged (but more likely a 454) 71/72 camaro, while I had two overweight passengers in the car with me.

(I know- it surprised me, too, but you should have seen the grin on my face as I started pulling away)

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I probably should't have even tried that one, but I knew my car was a good runner, and I couldn't resist the challenge, especially since the camaro driver was acting like he was gonna make light work of me.
 
Example:
Small Block Chevy
Valve train sucks just how Rusty mentioned before
Connecting Rods suck. If you plan on any horsepower or rpm you have to replace them
You have to use a 4 bolt main block or make the 2 bolt main block stronger with splayed caps
Have to go with screw in studs and guideplates
Have to go with hardened pushrods with the guideplates
How often do you see GM cars running "factory" GM castings that make good power? Mopar owners were strapped for many years making power with
factory castings before we finally had some aftermarket options.
Cam locking plate due to "cam walk"
GM guys make fun of what a Chrysler starter sounds like. I rather have a Chrysler starter than a GM starter. GM starters have to be shimmed just right or you
hear the famous grind.
How about the GM rear ends that use C clips? Love that idea. Lets spit axles out the side of the car
You always hear the famous "Chrysler are too expensive to build" My Chevy is so much cheaper. They are cheaper to build at the start but they do not last as long.
I have friends that ran small block chevy for drag cars. They had to tear them down every year and freshen them up. The Mopar friends I have that raced would run 2-3 years sometimes 4 years before a freshen up. Plus the Mopar engines would have more factory parts in it than a chevy. The only thing I can think of that would be factory in their engine would be the block and even then, most are using GM performance Bowtie blocks.
I had a 1970 318 satellite as my first car. I put a stock 340 intake on it, stock 340 cam, headers, and a 355 gear. I used to school so many small block gm with that car it was hilarious. I'm talking engines with similiar modifications. I understand why the aftermarket has catered to the small block chevy. They have been around forever and they need aftermarket parts to function. So when you have to build your Mopar and are frustrated that you have to order the part or pay more, just think of the better investment and quality that you are working with.

Great points. Sounds like reading the Mopar Engines and Chassis manuals :) They break it all down why it's actually cheaper to get comparable performance from a comparable body style in a Mopar over chevrolet and talk about the chassis too. Unibodies, subframe connectors, torsions bars, leaf springs, adjustable pinion snubber, 8 3/4 SGs etc.
 
You guys are arguing about engine from 40 years ago. Give it a rest.

GM had asome great engines. Mopar had some great engines. Ford... well they suck no matter what...LOL Although the fords are better in nascar these days as they are built to run hot and not fade. I've had sbc 350's and 305's and mopar 318's and 440's and slant sixes as well as straight six's. All of them ran for ever unless you didnt put oil in them.

Muscle cars had their heyday and all of them had a decent runner from AMC, Ford, Mopar, Chevy. Right now they all have their performance engines as well but Chevy is the least expensive to build and make killer power with utilizing their LSx platform. Dont belive me go and see what the preffered platfrom is in foxbody mustangs and just about every other car on the line.
Mopar won the engine masters but with a valvetrain that no one here could afford.. well maybe ********..LOL

Point being is that they all have their up and downs but to argue or bash another from 40 yrs ago?? Grow up a little bit. IT suprises me not that the person who posted this has 17 posts on here. I like Chevy and I like Mopar. I dont like the constant bickering about the two. My Chevy makes about 750 BHP all motor on 91 octane at 11:1 compression 457 CID.. in a block the size if an sbc 350
which by the way is what the new Chevy v6 is compressed to.. direct injection does wonders.. and makes 320 bhp.. almost as much as an old school big block anything from anyone

rusty is very knowledgeable.. respect

And the last word on the whole Mopar better than GM is K-Car.. Perhaps the worst POS ever produced in this country.
 
You guys are arguing about engine from 40 years ago. Give it a rest.
LOL

now if you gentlemen will excuse me , i have a 440 to drop in my charger
 
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You guys are arguing about engine from 40 years ago. Give it a rest.

GM had asome great engines. Mopar had some great engines. Ford... well they suck no matter what...LOL Although the fords are better in nascar these days as they are built to run hot and not fade. I've had sbc 350's and 305's and mopar 318's and 440's and slant sixes as well as straight six's. All of them ran for ever unless you didnt put oil in them.

Muscle cars had their heyday and all of them had a decent runner from AMC, Ford, Mopar, Chevy. Right now they all have their performance engines as well but Chevy is the least expensive to build and make killer power with utilizing their LSx platform. Dont belive me go and see what the preffered platfrom is in foxbody mustangs and just about every other car on the line.
Mopar won the engine masters but with a valvetrain that no one here could afford.. well maybe ********..LOL

Point being is that they all have their up and downs but to argue or bash another from 40 yrs ago?? Grow up a little bit. IT suprises me not that the person who posted this has 17 posts on here. I like Chevy and I like Mopar. I dont like the constant bickering about the two. My Chevy makes about 750 BHP all motor on 91 octane at 11:1 compression 457 CID.. in a block the size if an sbc 350
which by the way is what the new Chevy v6 is compressed to.. direct injection does wonders.. and makes 320 bhp.. almost as much as an old school big block anything from anyone

rusty is very knowledgeable.. respect

And the last word on the whole Mopar better than GM is K-Car.. Perhaps the worst POS ever produced in this country.

After reading your input i have a couple of retorts myself:

A. You're not the boss of me

B. This thread is posted in the General Discussion / Anything Goes Forum:

C. "You guys are arguing about engine from 40 years ago. Give it a rest." This is a website dedicated to cars/engines made 40 years ago. Why don't you "Give it a rest" and move on to another thread?. Also see A. and B.

D. "I dont like the constant bickering about the two." I don't care. Also see A., B., and C.

E. "IT suprises me not that the person who posted this has 17 posts on here." I don't care and I imagine it will have many more by the end of the day. Also see B. and C.

F. "rusty is very knowledgeable.. respect" This is not in dispute here

G. "And the last word on the whole Mopar better than GM is K-Car.. Perhaps the worst POS ever produced in this country." What makes you think it's the last word? Because you say so? And what in the hell has the K car got to do with anything, especially in this forum? Also see C.

Have a nice day.
 
How many "dog tracking" unibody Mopars do you see?

How many gms?

Uh-huh, thought so :)

The K platform was no worse than the gm X platform (citation, et al), and both became the basis for almost the entire product line despite their more than questionable beginnings.

Chrysler must have had a better engineering program to get the same performance out of smaller displacement engines :)

273=283
340=350
383=396/402
440=454

426= I'm gonna go ahead and say "has no equal".

Obviously you can question whether they had a viable marketing program or styling program, but I'm a "form follows function" guy anyway.


...and my 70 Bee routinely outhandled fox body mustangs as well :)

...and this is a MOPAR forum. I'm pretty sure we're allowed to do this.

I'll admit I've owned several B/O/P cars and a couple of fords (and still appreciate all brands esp classics), but I find the dollar for dollar value and relative ease of repair versus common issues to be more than favorable on the Chryslers versus the others (even with the dollar store chevy parts pricing and avaiability).
 
And the last word on the whole Mopar better than GM is K-Car.. Perhaps the worst POS ever produced in this country.

I gotta disagree. I think it's the other way around. They are some of the best cars Chrysler ever made. They were game changers. They SAVED Chrysler's ***. True, I admit, you don't see many of them now, as they rusted away. But for the time they came out, they were the best thing in their class. Chrysler didn't invent the front wheel drive car, but they sure as heck perfected it IMHO.
 
I gotta disagree. I think it's the other way around. They are some of the best cars Chrysler ever made. They were game changers. They SAVED Chrysler's ***. True, I admit, you don't see many of them now, as they rusted away. But for the time they came out, they were the best thing in their class. Chrysler didn't invent the front wheel drive car, but they sure as heck perfected it IMHO.

spewed oil worse thean the Exxon Valdez.. might have saved mopar from going under but it was a crap car.. wasnt the gran nat out at the same time? I dont like fwd never have never will..LOL
 
After reading your input i have a couple of retorts myself:

A. You're not the boss of me

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LMAO!

Yep I'm not the boss of you.

Mopar was and is always 3rd sniffing Chevy and Fords butt in car sales.
Rusty the K-car was a Govt bailout car. It didnt save Mopar the Govt did.

I like them both but arguing about this crap is stupid. I've got 2 cars right now with well over 200k on them both and have never had a mopar last as long. NEVER

You guys bash away... I've had enough of this stupidity
 
how about just closing this one ,your whipping a dead horse lets move on :closed_2:
 
The way I look at it yes all makes have made some good stronge engines but not as good as mopars. My dadused to tell me stories of a built up slant six taking out vettes and them getting all pissed that a six just beat them in a race. I think or like others have said my chevy is cheaper to build well so are the hondas lol yes more people modified their chevys just like the honduh people lol. Mopars have always came in last for aftermarket upgrades cause if you think about it they didnt need it. The heads and block were very stout take for instand the max wedge no other maker could touch those with out going aftermarket. Live love mopars. Oh and fwd cars can rock my srt4 took out many a v8 on and off the track stock and modified but that was a nice thing people just looked at them and said its just a neon. Yes they cant go as fast as a v8 but can still be impressive.
 
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