Wix and NAPA Gold filters have seperated.

[Roger63]

My son in law who regional manager tells me that wix will no longer be making Napa filters. Baldwin is apparently the low bidder for the work.
I don't know about any of you but I've never had any luck with Baldwin.

 

[5.7 hemi]

Baldwin makes good filters for Cummins engines.

 

[Roger63]

Baldwin makes good filters for Cummins engines.

I didn't have that luck, when I was oil sampling my semi Baldwin made my contaminates increase.

 

[5.7 hemi]

You’re saying it didn’t filter well enough for oil or fuel?

I run a Baldwin fuel filter/water separator on my 11 CTD. I don’t have a single complaint about it.

 

[1STMP]

Baldwin makes a good filter. For years
used mainly on construction/farm
equipment seeing severe duty.
We also ran these for an electric
companies fleet vehicles. For the
8 years I worked there, there were zero
engine failures related to the filters
used. There was a rash of mid-80's
GM camshafts flattening, but through
analysis, found to be defective
hardening.
Fleet vehicles live a hard life as they're
subject to a wide range of driving
styles and attitudes of "it's not my
car".

 

[Photon440]

Interesting. Baldwin is often slightly more expensive for the same equivalent in Wix. I have no problem with either brand.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

Back in the 70's-90's Baldwin had a very good reputation... I have zero current experience...

 

[hunt2elk]

Up until 5-6 years ago, WIX made the better variation of filters that CarQuest sold. Then they switched over to Baldwin as well. I'm sure because of cost.....

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Wix is a little too proud of their filters. $75 for disposable filter is too steep. Especially when a Cummins brand fleet guard filter is half the price and is warranty compliant.
I guess lining the pockets of you tube influencers comes at a cost.

 

[Rick62]

Wix is a little too proud of their filters. $75 for disposable filter is too steep. Especially when a Cummins brand fleet guard filter is half the price and is warranty compliant.
I guess lining the pockets of you tube influencers comes at a cost.

Cheap or good, pick one.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

Cheap or good, pick one.

Cheap, only oil filter I have ever had fail was a Napa/Wix spilt open right up the side upon start up after pouring new oil in.
I would not say that a fleet guard is not good , it's a OE filter

 

[68BabyBlue]

Cheap, only oil filter I have ever had fail was a Napa/Wix spilt open right up the side upon start up after pouring new oil in.
I would not say that a fleet guard is not good , it's a OE filter

Interesting, as the only filter failure I ever experienced was also with a Napa/Wix. A couple years ago, driving out to the truck after a fresh oil change in my car, filter collapsed internally, and I nearly sucked the oil pan dry before the engine shut off kicked in. Checked the dipstick, thought the shop had forgotten to put oil in after draining. Not the case. Like you, I ran fleet guard filters in my Peterbilt, rather than pay extra for the CAT logo.

 

[Roger63]

Fleet guard is a good large engine filter, I ran them on my Cummins. Baldwin just aren't as good so I ran a good quality filter on a $50000 engine.

 

[5.7 hemi]

Have you done any oil analysis’s?

 

[Roger63]

Have you done any oil analysis’s?

Yes, I did it on all my trucks.

 

[70bigblockdodge]

The split in the side of the filter was just a freak thing (bad steel), I have run them many more times on things. I've pretty much run them all on my trucks over the years. Never had any issues. Oil is a different story. I've run a few different oils and Napa/Valvoline/Ashland oil co. It would use 3-4 gal in a oil change interval, Rottella when it needed the 2nd gallon you were due for oil change. I'm running the old Kendall refinery oil out of Bradford Pa (Penn Grade) also formerly Brad Penn oil. It seems fine.
I only do oil analysis when I suspect a problem, like it has a ton of blow-by (cracked piston), missing push rod (lifter rotated), or will not turn over more than one revolution at AM startup (bad head gasket)

 

[Detective D]

I have bought WIX for a lot of years now.
I would have bought Baldwin in a heartbeat but they don't sell a filter with their own name on it anywhere near me, for car applications anyway. I looked online, they were available, but I am more of a "go to the store" guy.
I grew up with Baldwin filters in every farming application.
I honestly am not concerned too much about this change. A little competition in price is good for all of us, that is how it is supposed to work.
Now if Baldwin BOUGHT WIX, then I would be a bit worried! Because that is how things have been going lately all over. And then you get a monopoly, and then you get globalist BS and chinesium.

At this point, if one of them will put loud and proud "Made in USA" on the front I would probably buy it regardless of brand. Somehow that is turning into a Taboo for some reason.

 

[Slipping727]

Just threw two new Napa Gold filters in the garbage. Threads had horrible loose burrs. Didn't want to take a chance.
Looked like the theading insert chipped and the operator just moved the off set to get a go, no-go gadget to fit.
Napa Golds were all I used until now.

 

[Jeff Peterson]

Guess I was early to the Cummins party

 

[beanhead]

The only thing "Wix" about Napa filters is the part number. Wix-brand (and Napa) filters are made by Mann & Hummel, another big global conglomerate manufacturer IIRC....and have been for a while now.
Just like everything else, quality is hit & miss. Some are made here, some aren't. I've had two Wix's that refused to thread on to my oil pump.
I used to get the "Napa Gold/Wix" version but the actual Wix 51515 was 2$ cheaper at O'kragens...go figure.
It'd be nice to think that NAPA is making this move to have theirs made by a good domestic plant with better quality, but I highly doubt it. Businesses choosing "better" over "cheaper" hasn't shown to be the case.
I still have some 51515s that do say Made in USA, and some that don't. If they don't it's pretty much guaranteed they aren't...