18x9 on front

[Sweet5ltr]

Considering B Bodies are zero offset that is high

Typical is half the overall rim width (add 1/2" for the lip) So 18 X 8 with 4.5" and 19 X 10 with 5.5" because some people go half the sited width I split the difference and went 4.25" and 5.25"

Well, you tell me if it works? :eusa_whistle:

 

[HYRDGOON]

Looks good. How wide is your rear rubber?

 

[Sweet5ltr]

Looks good. How wide is your rear rubber?

Front:
255/45r18 or 27x10r18 (-.8" width difference vs. 275's)
Rear:
295/45r18 or 28.5x11.6r18 (-.4" width difference vs. 305's)

With 6.3" backspacing, +30 MM offset, and .200" spacers; a 255/45r18 is the widest available tire for a B-Body with stock style spindles. Keep in mind, I run Dr. Diff 13" Brembo's so they widen the track a bit more than stock. Realistically, this opens up MULTITUDES of wheel options from Ford for Mopars; be different! PS: expect a serious workout with manual steering and larger front tire combo's at slow speeds.

 

[HYRDGOON]

I'm looking at 305 30 19's or 305 35 19 (less available) Currently have 285's on my 17's and 255/45/17 up front with manual steering.

Converting to the Rack will help me a lot though.

I was going to ask if you de-humped the wheel well but at your ride height it doesn't look necessary. I want mine looooowww

 

[Tzclark]

I was going to ask if you de-humped the wheel well but at your ride height it doesn't look necessary. I want mine looooowww

The only thing getting dehumped in my household is me! Gotta work on getting the old lady drunk more often!

Sweet5ltr

Are you at factory ride height? How does it handle?

 

[Sweet5ltr]

I'm looking at 305 30 19's or 305 35 19 (less available) Currently have 285's on my 17's and 255/45/17 up front with manual steering.

Converting to the Rack will help me a lot though.

I was going to ask if you de-humped the wheel well but at your ride height it doesn't look necessary. I want mine looooowww

No modifications to the wheel well or even the fender lips. It's a perfect fit overall. Well with the rear mount turbo, can't really go any lower in my case. Sits perfectly level now with the old super stock springs, I believe the Hotchkis rear and front swaybar pull the car down a fair amount.

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The only thing getting dehumped in my household is me! Gotta work on getting the old lady drunk more often!

Sweet5ltr

Are you at factory ride height? How does it handle?

Factory ride height. Handles awesome with the Nitto's and like I mentioned, Hotchkis front/rear swaybar setup (soon to add Bilstein shocks/Hotchkis torsion bars). Comfortable like a new car, yet is actually predictable in the turns with minimal body roll (which is really surprising). I couldn't carry anyone in the back seat with my drag radials, but it has multitudes of travel now. My father and girlfriend rode in the car with me, no issues whatsoever. I had a Z06 Corvette, Saleen Mustang, and now an SRT Challenger; so I know a bit about handling!

 

[HYRDGOON]

No modifications to the wheel well or even the fender lips. It's a perfect fit overall. Well with the rear mount turbo, can't really go any lower in my case. Sits perfectly level now with the old super stock springs, I believe the Hotchkis rear and front swaybar pull the car down a fair amount.

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Factory ride height. Handles awesome with the Nitto's and like I mentioned, Hotchkis front/rear swaybar setup (soon to add Bilstein shocks/Hotchkis torsion bars). Comfortable like a new car, yet is actually predictable in the turns with minimal body roll (which is really surprising). I couldn't carry anyone in the back seat with my drag radials, but it has multitudes of travel now. My father and girlfriend rode in the car with me, no issues whatsoever. I had a Z06 Corvette, Saleen Mustang, and now an SRT Challenger; so I know a bit about handling!

Wait till you get the Bilsteins they make an unbelievable amount of difference

 

[dickdale]

On my 70's Satellite Brad recommended going 4.5" backspacing on the front with a 18x8 wheel and 5.5" for the rear with a 19x10 wheel.

However he didn't know I'm also using Dr.Diffs 13" brake setup.

I haven't ordered my wheels yet and want to wait for my custom front brake setup is ready. I'm using the Brembo Z18 6 piston calipers. They need a lot of clearance.

I was thinking about going 255/45/18 on the front and 295/40/19 on the rear for the tires. Therefore I'll be needing PS. I'm in the progress of going with EPS using an Opel/Vauxhall Corsa EPS and a control unit. That however is a whole different story.

 

[Sweet5ltr]

On my 70's Satellite Brad recommended going 4.5" backspacing on the front with a 18x8 wheel and 5.5" for the rear with a 19x10 wheel.

However he didn't know I'm also using Dr.Diffs 13" brake setup.

I haven't ordered my wheels yet and want to wait for my custom front brake setup is ready. I'm using the Brembo Z18 6 piston calipers. They need a lot of clearance.

I was thinking about going 255/45/18 on the front and 295/40/19 on the rear for the tires. Therefore I'll be needing PS. I'm in the progress of going with EPS using an Opel/Vauxhall Corsa EPS and a control unit. That however is a whole different story.

You have quite a lot of room moving the tire closer to the leafs, are you trying to push the tire as close to the fender as possible? I have maybe 1.5" of clearance with my 295's to the fenderlip, and they are around .5-.75" off the leaf springs. You may be able to fit a 305-315 if you get your backspacing and offset perfect with stock leafs. With relocated springs, a 325-335 would be cake if you're a big tire fan; since you're ordering custom wheels anyways.

 

[Tzclark]

That's what he recommended for my front, for my rears I went 19x12 with as much lip as possible but I'll shorten my rear end.

 

[HYRDGOON]

There are tons of threads on this forum of what will fit. Sweet5ltr I tend to think you're recommendations are a bit generous given the ride height of your car. (It's level but from what I can see it sits high as you said because of your rear mounted turbos)

The biggest that's known to squeeze into a stock well is a 315 on a 12" wide rim with 5.5" backspace (A few people running that exact combo) and say there isn't room for anything larger. I wouldn't attempt that without dehumping the well just in fear of rub with any sort of terrain.

If you're going to relocate springs then you may as well narrow and mini tub and have at it

 

[Sweet5ltr]

There are tons of threads on this forum of what will fit. Sweet5ltr I tend to think you're recommendations are a bit generous given the ride height of your car. (It's level but from what I can see it sits high as you said because of your rear mounted turbos)

The biggest that's known to squeeze into a stock well is a 315 on a 12" wide rim with 5.5" backspace (A few people running that exact combo) and say there isn't room for anything larger. I wouldn't attempt that without dehumping the well just in fear of rub with any sort of terrain.

If you're going to relocate springs then you may as well narrow and mini tub and have at it

Not sure if I was clear, I mentioned 305-315 without serious modifications (with perfect backspacing/offset). You're probably right however, as my car is perfectly level (very slight rake) but may be 2-3" higher than a stock B-Body, but who needs more rubber than 295's on a street car anyway!? 335's or bust when it comes down to it.. :headbang:

26-27" front and 28-30" rear tires just look right on a B-Body, anything shorter doesn't do these cars justice. There was a 66' Charger at the last show with 18's or 19's and 'rubber bands' (tires with minimal sidewall). There is nothing he could have done to make that setup look good! However, was easily out done by a 70' Chevelle with these..


WHAT GOES THROUGH SOMEONES HEAD WHEN ORDERING SOMETHING LIKE THIS!? :sign12:

 

[Kern Dog]

Front:
255/45r18 or 27x10r18 (-.8" width difference vs. 275's)
Rear:
295/45r18 or 28.5x11.6r18 (-.4" width difference vs. 305's)

With 6.3" backspacing, +30 MM offset, and .200" spacers; a 255/45r18 is the widest available tire for a B-Body with stock style spindles. Keep in mind, I run Dr. Diff 13" Brembo's so they widen the track a bit more than stock.

I run disc knuckles from a 75 Dart. 18x9 wheels, 4 3/4" BS and a 275-40-18 tire.

 

[dirtypa]

The bottom of the pinch rail at the very front (just in front of the two bolts which hold on the front fender - just behind the front tire) is 7 1/2".

The bottom of the pinch rail at the very back (just in front of the rear tire) is 8 7/16".

It's pretty low by any normal car standard. The car looks just slightly raked, but not like it did with my big 15" wheels and BFG radials. That was more of what I'd call the Hot Rod look. I'd say (hope) this is more of the road-race/NASCAR/Autocross look - modified for the fact that I need to get in and out of my driveway!

I think to go any lower you really have to go with a coil-over front end like Reilly Motorsports. I'd love to if I had the $5,000, and another $3,000 for a 4 link to match in the back. I have a cars-and-coffee-friend who owns the "20 Screws" car (a '70 RR that's been in the magazines- he's a very nice guy BTW) and he's running huge tires with RMS suspension and tubbed rear wheel wells. That car is REALLY wide and low, but it takes cubic dollars to get there.

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Damn I love the look of your Runner dude.

 

[desotoman]

has anybody used those wheel spacers to go from the modern challenger wheels 20x8 to a Plymouth 68-70 b body if so how thick is the spacer 2 inchs ?

 

[Kern Dog]

The 2006-2016 300, Charger, Magnum and Challenger models use wheels with not only less offset but the lug pattern is slightly different. The "spacers" are actually adapters as well.
The problem with the new wheels is that they lack the depth that you can get with wheels without spacers. The face of most newer car wheels is close to the edge of the rim like front wheel drive cars. This is probably to extend wheel bearing service life and to reduce wind drag.

 

[dickdale]

I've ordered my 18x9 and 19x10 wheels at Bonspeed. I'm using Dr. Diff's 13" rotors and hubs up front but with my own Porsche Cayenne 6 piston caliper. Reinforced stock k-member, upper control arms and lower control arms. At the rear I'm using Dr.Diff's 11.7 rotors with Cobra calipers. The has Hotchkis leaf springs at the original location. No mini tube.

Which BS do you guys recommend?

It's for a 70's Satellite.

I want to go 255 on the front and 295 on the rear.

 

[Kern Dog]

6 piston Porsche calipers ??? I'm guessing that the caliper brackets are NOT a part I can get at Auto Zone!

 

[dickdale]

No. Autocad and Cnc are your best Friend on this one.

 

[Kern Dog]

Well you might as well be speaking Ukranian because I still don't know what you mean. I don't have contact with any high tech machinists. Who does this stuff?? It does look cool. Complicated, but cool.