1967 426 Hemi oil capacity

[skyman51]

I am having a disagreement with a friend. He says the Hemi did not go to 6qts. of oil with a filter until 1970. I told him all street Hemis from 1966 on were 6 qts. with the filter not 5.

 

[RustyRatRod]

Simple. Fill it up till it reads "FULL" and note how much it takes. But you knew that already. I am pretty sure you are correct, btw.

 

[Meep-Meep]

The 66 cars used a C body pan and I believe this went through 69. The only difference that I know of is when this pan was installed on the hemi it got baffles. That being said it's very possible this early pan was a 4 qt sump.

 

[68GTX4SPEED]

My 68 still has it's 5 quarter original Hemi pan.

 

[skyman51]

My 68 still has it's 5 quarter original Hemi pan.

So that is 5 qt. total with or without a filter change?

 

[68GTX4SPEED]

Thats just the pan 5 quarter, but I have a 1970-71 6 quarter pan complete with pick-up so I will replace it this winter.

 

[Garys1969RR]

Far as oil pan capacity goes, I measured one from a 1973 400 engine, off the car and it took 6 quarts (water) to bottom of windage tray. I was surprised. I have it on my 451 now. And it takes 6 quarts to get it to the full mark on dipstick. It is noticably larger than the early 440 magnum pan. Has 699 stamped on the bottom.

 

[Meep-Meep]

My 68 still has it's 5 quarter original Hemi pan.

Can we get a picture of the pan from under the car? The C body pan, which is what I believe you have, has an indent on the pass side near the idler arm. This was in fact necessary to clear the idler arm on C bodies.

 

[68GTX4SPEED]

I can take pics tomorrow, I have read that 68-69 are Hemi specific and mine are supposed to be one of them, saw one mint at ebay for sale "buy it now $1395" in Florida, told a friend about that ridiculous price and the next day it was sold???

 

[Garys1969RR]

Can we get a picture of the pan from under the car? The C body pan, which is what I believe you have, has an indent on the pass side near the idler arm. This was in fact necessary to clear the idler arm on C bodies.

Do you know if the pan stamped number is an indication of what it originally came on? Mine does have the indent for the idler arm that you mentioned.

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So that is 5 qt. total with or without a filter change?

The pan capacity is measured with out the filter. The standard PH-8A filter holds right at a quart I believe. So a 4 quart pan (standard on most non HP passenger cars and many muscle cars) would need 5 quarts if you are changing the filter, 4 quarts if not changing it.

 

[Meep-Meep]

I can take pics tomorrow, I have read that 68-69 are Hemi specific and mine are supposed to be one of them, saw one mint at ebay for sale "buy it now $1395" in Florida, told a friend about that ridiculous price and the next day it was sold???

Cool, thanks.

I have seen the $1000.00+ hemi pans and couldn't believe it. I have a 66 hemi car and when looking in an original 66 parts book I noticed the part number for the hemi pan and the 361 pan were exactly the same. So there must be three pan styles in the 6 yr street hemi production?

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Do you know if the pan stamped number is an indication of what it originally came on? Mine does have the indent for the idler arm that you mentioned.

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From what I know the 66 hemi pan does not have a stamp but not sure about 67-69 or later.

 

[68GTX4SPEED]

Here we go.

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The guy I bought the motor from bought it in 1977, it was out of a 1968 red Charger 4 speed in NJ, that had a fire in the dash so they just junked it, hole driveline was put into a 1970 Challenger JH23 and thats how my seller bought the hole package, and when I asked him about this oilpan he guaranteed that it was the original pan, if anybody know where the Chargers remains is let me know I do have the title for it, thats my nick at dodgecharger.com 68RED4SPEED

 

[RustyRatRod]

Far as oil pan capacity goes, I measured one from a 1973 400 engine, off the car and it took 6 quarts (water) to bottom of windage tray. I was surprised. I have it on my 451 now. And it takes 6 quarts to get it to the full mark on dipstick. It is noticably larger than the early 440 magnum pan. Has 699 stamped on the bottom.

Gary, that's a C body pan. The 699 and the 187 are duplicates of each other, other than their stamped number. They are both kinda coveted in the A body world, because they have an indention that works with the A body idler arm. I have a 187 pan myself. Nice to know it also holds 6 quarts.

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Also, here is a nice page on 440source.com with pans, numbers and applications.

http://www.440source.com/oilpans.htm

 

[Garys1969RR]

Wow those pictures are cool! Never seen a hemi oil pan, that thing is HUGE!

 

[skyman51]

The reason there is a factory welded plate on 66 and 67 Hemi K frames is because the pan is deeper and it is to protect it. I am going with six qts. with a new filter and will let you know.