1972 challenger converted to 1970 ... VALUE HELP!!!

[dvw]

Bought a 73 Rallye, replaced quarters, trunk, extensions, wheel wells, floors, trunk lid, fenders, and did rust repair on the other panels. Jammed it in for top banana, rebuilt suspension, swapped in a 360 and 518 - redid the brakes, exhaust, etc - primed and blocked it and was ready for paint -- sold it for $12,500 --

I don't see this car being $35K - - But that's my opinion.

And how much did that cost you? How much time? Still no final paint and assembly. What was the interior and trim condition? How about the engine?fresh build? Used? Not everybody can due their own work. Then what is the quality level? All these factors add in.
Doug

 

[70chall440]

Bottom line is that the 70/71 cars are getting harder and more expensive, it is only natural that the next batch/type begin to increase in value. Again, I am saying that this car is worth what someone will pay for it. If some rich dude just has to have it and wants to pay $50K, then that is what its worth right then, doesn't mean it will ever be worth that again on either side.

The cars you see go across the auction sites are way over priced more times than not, but someone is paying that cost. I chuckle when car guys see these cars and comment how overpriced they are until it is something like what they have, then all a sudden thats the going rate.

 

[Kern Dog]

Bottom line is that the 70/71 cars are getting harder and more expensive

This part I agree with. I was in the same boat with a Duster that I had. I like the '71 Duster 340 styling but finding an affordable '71 was difficult. I Took a 1974 model and made a few changes. I welded in 70/71 taillights, used a 70-72 hood and grille and dressed it like a '71 model with the hood blackout and 340 decal.
It was a nice looking car. I sold it in 2011 for $8200.

 

[70chall440]

Nice car and my point exactly.

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

thanks for all the feedback guys , ima offer 25k and see

 

[70chall440]

Good call.

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

guys back to this , how much would guys spend on her?or the other option i have is https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...ch-would-this-car-be-worth-help.187723/page-1

which one?

 

[moparedtn]

That's assuming it is a nice clean restoration.

One thing that critter ain't is a "restoration"...
Restification, Modification, Restomod, whatever one wants to call it, but it's not restored.
According to the Hagerty Valuation Guide, a '72 Challenger 318 (heck, I even gave it credit for being a "Rallye")
in nice shape is currently trading for about $22k - but keep in mind, it gets wonky from there if a car has
been as deeply messed with as that one apparently has.
(Hagerty uses actual market activity to determine their Guide numbers....)

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

One thing that critter ain't is a "restoration"...
Restification, Modification, Restomod, whatever one wants to call it, but it's not restored.
According to the Hagerty Valuation Guide, a '72 Challenger 318 (heck, I even gave it credit for being a "Rallye")
in nice shape is currently trading for about $22k - but keep in mind, it gets wonky from there if a car has
been as deeply messed with as that one apparently has.
(Hagerty uses actual market activity to determine their Guide numbers....)

agreed but have to keep in mind mopars are the rarest muscle cars in qatar

 

[moparedtn]

agreed but have to keep in mind mopars are the rarest muscle cars in qatar

Justify it any way you like to yourself, you're the one making the decision on how much to fork over....
but also remember, you asked the question here.
What a car is actually worth on the market is sometimes not the same as what an individual is willing to pay for it.
Some of my old friends who owned used car lots had a saying for that phenomena:
"There's an *** for every seat".

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

Justify it any way you like to yourself, you're the one making the decision on how much to fork over....
but also remember, you asked the question here.
What a car is actually worth on the market is sometimes not the same as what an individual is willing to pay for it.
Some of my old friends who owned used ca
r lots had a saying for that phenomena:
"There's an *** for every seat".

not trying to justify it mate , having a 1 off mopar down here 13 odd years ago and restoring / nearly killing myself in it , i know how rare they are here.
this is her

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...roadrunner-440-4-speed.124815/#post-910597764

 

[moparedtn]

not trying to justify it mate , having a 1 off mopar down here 13 odd years ago and restoring / nearly killing myself in it , i know how rare they are here.
this is her

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...roadrunner-440-4-speed.124815/#post-910597764

Mercy, thank God you're still with us for sure!
That said, that event has little to do with this subject.
I'm trying to make sure you understand the difference in true market values of a factory "1 off" car and
some oddball "1 off" someone down the line has cobbled together.
Once a fella goes down that rabbit hole, all bets are off - including the one that says you'll be able to see
that investment returned, should you decide to sell later on.
There's simply no accurate price guides/statistics on heavily-modified cars.

 

[1967coronet]

They are nice cars Joseph, one advantage is they are were you can see them and not pictures online.
Plus as I am sure you have done is adding the transportation cost to ship one from the states to Qatar.
There are not near as many ( original ) mopars as claimed.
I'm sure others will disagree but once a major component is gone and replaced the run of the mill muscle car value drops.
(Exception to the hemi cars ) and factory lightweights.
Buy your car because you like it . Value is smiles per miles.

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

Mercy, thank God you're still with us for sure!
That said, that event has little to do with this subject.
I'm trying to make sure you understand the difference in true market values of a factory "1 off" car and
some oddball "1 off" someone down the line has cobbled together.
Once a fella goes down that rabbit hole, all bets are off - including the one that says you'll be able to see
that investment returned, should you decide to sell later on.
There's simply no accurate price guides/statistics on heavily-modified cars.

That event has everything to do with this subject mate , I have owned multiple classic American muscle cars after but not a mopar as they are very rare here .I get what you're tryin to say and aye highly appreciate you taking the time .
I don't really care about resale value or ehatever , just wanted to know from what you see in the pictures and both are in running condition, how much any of you would offer if it was your loot you were giving

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

They are nice cars Joseph, one advantage is they are were you can see them and not pictures online.
Plus as I am sure you have done is adding the transportation cost to ship one from the states to Qatar.
There are not near as many ( original ) mopars as claimed.
I'm sure others will disagree but once a major component is gone and replaced the run of the mill muscle car value drops.
(Exception to the hemi cars ) and factory lightweights.
Buy your car because you like it . Value is smiles per miles.

I understand, not looking at resale value or aye
If you were to buy it , how mich would you offer ?

 

[1967coronet]

I understand, not looking at resale value or aye
If you were to buy it , how mich would you offer ?

Taking into account the fact they are close at hand and you can look them over i am the low 30s ball park. Your 25 offer idea is good start.
You have done the math I am sure.
Find some 60s / early 70s mopar here in the USA. Gamble a sight unseen pic purchase, transport to the coast , load into a container and ship. Once you get your hands on it you star dumping $$ into it.
I like the 440 green one

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

Taking into account the fact they are close at hand and you can look them over i am the low 30s ball park. Your 25 offer idea is good start.
You have done the math I am sure.
Find some 60s / early 70s mopar here in the USA. Gamble a sight unseen pic purchase, transport to the coast , load into a container and ship. Once you get your hands on it you star dumping $$ into it.
I like the 440 green one

I'm leaning towards the green one too but the other is a 4 speed !! Lol

 

[josephqatarcarguy]

My first car - Charlotte!! That rear end !!

RIP

 

[hunt2elk]

guys back to this , how much would guys spend on her?or the other option i have is https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/mopa...ch-would-this-car-be-worth-help.187723/page-1

which one?

Both these Challengers are still for sale 2 years later? If so, that tells you right there that the owners are asking to much for them.

 

[dvw]

The OE guys crack me up. Their stuff is worth millions and everything else is trash. A nice Hot Rod is a nice Hot Rod. How many LS Camaros go for big money? How about a 70 Challenger with a Gen 3 Hemi? Those are all worthless? Nice body work and paint isn't cheap. I see plenty of $20,000-$25000 paint and body jobs. Price what it takes to build a nice car. I do all my own so its much cheaper. But people who cant? Price a motor build, interior, chrome work. I own a modified 73. It was built to be what it is. A car we could enjoy. Is it worthless? You judge.
Doug