1973-1974 Door Glass hardware

[73ChargerRallye]

Hi all,

Updating this post since it covers background on my project instead of going straight to the question

It looks like the guide rollers for the 1973-1974 models are pressed/squashed/mushroomed onto the window regulators during manufacture, and that they aren't serviceable. I ordered a kit from MrMoparts.com that includes replacement guide rollers for my 1973 window regulators, and I'd like to replace them, but I didn't want to make assumptions before jumping in with an angle grinder and making permanent changes that can't be reversed.

The replacement roller guides (see second picture below) have a stud that is 0.188", and the existing ones are bigger (vary from 0.230 to 0.250, see first picture), which is why I assume they've been "smashed" to retain them on the regulators as part of the manufacturing process. Can I safely remove these and replace them with the new ones? Does anybody have any experience or advice on this? I don't want to put my car back together with 50+ year old, heat-baked nylon guides, if I can avoid it.

Third picture is the project - factory FE5/340/auto car, been off the road since mid 90's, and long overdue to get back in action

 

[73ChargerRallye]

Hi all,

Updating this post since it covers background on my project instead of going straight to the question

It looks like the guide rollers for the 1973-1974 models are pressed/squashed/mushroomed onto the window regulators during manufacture, and that they aren't serviceable. I ordered a kit from MrMoparts.com that includes replacement guide rollers for my 1973 window regulators, and I'd like to replace them, but I didn't want to make assumptions before jumping in with an angle grinder and making permanent changes that can't be reversed.

The replacement roller guides (see second picture below) have a stud that is 0.188", and the existing ones are bigger (vary from 0.230 to 0.250, see first picture), which is why I assume they've been "smashed" to retain them on the regulators as part of the manufacturing process. Can I safely remove these and replace them with the new ones? Does anybody have any experience or advice on this? I don't want to put my car back together with 50+ year old, heat-baked nylon guides, if I can avoid it.

Third picture is the project - factory FE5/340/auto car, been off the road since mid 90's, and long overdue to get back in action

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Hello all - updating this post for anyone looking at doing this.

I ground off one of.the studs on an old, rusty regulator to confirm that the original studs are 0.188". This confirmed that the solution is to grind off the old studs, and that the replacements will fit in the holes.

Next step is to make a fixture for peening the new studs without damaging the new rollers.

 

[terrywalker]

I'm curious as to how the peening of the new roller studs went.
Terry W.

 

[Polaris400cc]

Hello all - updating this post for anyone looking at doing this.

I ground off one of.the studs on an old, rusty regulator to confirm that the original studs are 0.188". This confirmed that the solution is to grind off the old studs, and that the replacements will fit in the holes.

Next step is to make a fixture for peening the new studs without damaging the new rollers.

Im curious where you got .188 dia. studs from. Im working on a 72 plymouth satellite front windows and everything I have found has .156 dia. studs and square guides. I dont care if they are square or round. My originals are .188 studs and round rollers.

 

[Polaris400cc]

the .188 rivet and round roller is mopar part number 3670149. I'm working on 72 satellite manual windows. and apparently they should be more square but these rollers that are round did come into play at some point in 72 also, so i prolly have an oddball that used the later round rollers