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1974 Pantera for short money Not mine

I can find an engine, sourcing the rest would be ridiculous, in my opinion.
 
RR Fan Dan said:
If that’s a 351 Cleveland it’s got some value for the motor alone.
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If you can get it out. I drove a buddies once. 135 in 3'rd and I still had 4th and 5th yet to go. In a 35 mph zone. :BangHead: :BangHead: :lol:
 
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This 1974 DeTomaso Pantera is a non-running project that sustained damage to the front of the car under prior ownership. It was also refinished in red and fitted with a replacement 351ci V8 at some point prior to the selling dealer’s 2025 acquisition. The car retains its five-speed ZF manual transaxle, center console and gated shifter, door panels, and instrumentation. The removed bucket seats are trimmed in black. Campagnolo-style 17″ wheels will accompany the car, though some are damaged. This Pantera project is now offered at no reserve with a Pennsylvania Certificate of Salvage.
 
I don't think it needs a parts car, I think it is the parts car.
 
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351 2V engine only out of 73 or 4 Ford Torino never heard run crank spins freely complete engine only for sale
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351 Cleveland

315 Cleveland block, crank, and 4bbl intake. $350.00 early 70s
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351 clevland h o

This engine is out of 70 torino gt will need rebuilt is 2 bbl style have c6 trans also needs rebuilt also have aluminum 4bbl intake for 100.00 more
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There was like 5 other posts, a few were pretty old. People need to remember in the salt belt the engines last forever but the cars and trucks return to the earth. We will never run out of engines in the midwest. We have already run out of things to put them in years ago.
 
toolmanmike said:
If you can get it out. I drove a buddies once. 135 in 3'rd and I still had 4th and 5th yet to go. In a 35 mph zone. :BangHead: :BangHead: :lol:
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The one posted struck an immovable object at around 40 mph?
 
Richard Cranium said:
It's not going to buff out though.

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Lots of pictures of the fancy engine, the nice interior, fancy auges they put in, fancy wheels.... no mention of fancy suspension or brakes though..... hmmmmmmm..........

That is a parts car. Mostly the rear axle has some value. I see someone bid 12.5 on it now. I suppose some collector will drag it home for the VIN and whatever. Ford guys are hyper zealots about anything with a Ford engine in it and somehow a lot of them have endless money. Personally I am not stricken with Ford powered Ferrari-esque fever and do not see any value in this car, and what good ones bring blows my mind also.
 
Detective D said:
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There was like 5 other posts, a few were pretty old. People need to remember in the salt belt the engines last forever but the cars and trucks return to the earth. We will never run out of engines in the midwest. We have already run out of things to put them in years ago.
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Well said!!
 
I've owned a 2016 Saleen yellow tag, stick and 1971 Cougar XR7, 351Cleveland automatic.They were both a lot of fun.
 
Hey-O said:
I've owned a 2016 Saleen yellow tag, stick and 1971 Cougar XR7, 351Cleveland automatic.They were both a lot of fun.
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I don't have anything bad to say about the 351W, but the cleveland is what Ford should have continued instead of just using the heads on the morphodite 351/400M. The 2bbl 400M truck engine was a brute, but under engineered, and they tried to use it in cars. The 351M was not reliable the way the original C and W were. The heads did make the 351M pretty responsive and snappy though, for what it was, which was a detriment in WI snow back in the day lol.
Fun fact a lot of Ford guys don't even know, you can take a ultra cheap 351M from the late 70's(or a 400) and drop 4bbl small chamber cleveland heads on it and bump the compression up into the 8.9-9.5 range, perfect for aggressive timing and premium gas, whole project can be done for a couple hundred bucks. A nice way to wake up an old 70's F150, for example.
 
Friend has worked on two. One a full pro touring deal with 100k’s of work. The other some small project work and maintenance.

They are a POS. Common to lower the floor for headroom. Wiring sucks. Build quality is atrocious. They’ll rust in the driest climates.

4 bbl early heads are too big for stock cam. Even street performance cam.

There is an Australian head with smaller valves and small chambers that was the ticket. Now, they make aluminum variants. Stroking them helps match the heads to displacement.
 
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