512 Trick Flow 270 Dyno today

[biomedtechguy]

Here's the calculator I used for my stock bore/stroke 440 and my wife's .035-over 421 Tri-power. It was to set our rev limiters.
http://thefirstgensite.com/code/maxrpm.htm

 

[IQ52]

IQ52
I communicated with him recently.
He was my 1st choice,
no longer available...
Goals definitely within reach! Just a question of who to trust, especially with the 6bbl tuning and the Trick Flow 240s.

I'm just not taking any new work. I'll finish the engines I've already taken cash advances on and that is it. I'm over a year behind on a 540 wedge, it's just plain embarrassing. I turned down two wedge strokers in February and just Monday, two Hemi builds.

I'm 70 yrs old and live in the mountains of Idaho. I want to enjoy more of this before I die.

 

[biomedtechguy]

I'm just not taking any new work. I'll finish the engines I've already taken cash advances on and that is it. I'm 70 yrs old and live in the mountains of Idaho. I want to enjoy more of this before I die.

I don't blame you at all!!!
Just sorry I couldn't get you to do my build.
You da MAN! Hurry up and retire so you can enjoy that BEAUTIFUL countryside and your family!
More to life than work!
Looks like a nice rifle! 30.06??

 

[RoasterStrudel]

That is a freight train of a torque curve! Awesome build!

 

[1967coronet440]

Gary had built 2 other engines using the Trick Flow 240s and was very impressed. He was as excited as me. This was the first TF 270 build for him. He's building another very similar engine for a guy who is insisting on using the Victor heads because he wants "more power". It will be interesting to compare. I don't think your goals would be hard to reach. Didn't IQ52 build a six pack TF 240 engine for 68GTX? I drooled over it while we built this. I went lower cost where I could like the rocker assembly, but don't feel I sacrificed too much performance by skipping the Harland Sharp rocker assembly suggested by Trick Flow...didn't have the extra $1,000.00 laying around. The Comp Cam steel roller assembly fit my needs. All in after selling my other parts I'm in around $8k, made easy considering it was over the past year...and I used mostly the money from selling my Harley, and the $1,700.00 selling the parts listed above.

Funny you mention the victor vs 270 because originally I wanted to use the 270’s and had everything picked out for my parts supplier and builder (Chicago connection) but he ( Bill from CC) and the builder talked me out of the 270’s saying they have been making more power with the victors. Haven’t had mine on the dyno but it’s a 505 and duration @.050 is 263/270 lift is 650/651 using 1.6 rockers and after lash should be around 666/667 lift

 

[Hemirunner]

That victor head makes good power, but overall, it’s a huge disappointment. Almost every rocker arm hits on the valve cover. It’s like Edelbrock got 80% done and said “good enough for mopar people” and sent it to market. The whole valve cover rail should have shifted a 1/4” to allow for rocker clearance. You might as well mill the stands off and run a set of T&D or Jesel rockers.

 

[Bigfoots N Mopars]

Funny you mention the victor vs 270 because originally I wanted to use the 270’s and had everything picked out for my parts supplier and builder (Chicago connection) but he ( Bill from CC) and the builder talked me out of the 270’s saying they have been making more power with the victors. Haven’t had mine on the dyno but it’s a 505 and duration @.050 is 263/270 lift is 650/651 using 1.6 rockers and after lash should be around 666/667 lift

I am pretty sure worked Victors will win, but I figured I’m between the RPMs/240s and the big boys like the victors. Think I saved some money by not needing the offset rockers. Wish I could have used the Super Victor Max Wedge intake instead of the Indy!!! But alas no low deck love

 

[1967coronet440]

That victor head makes good power, but overall, it’s a huge disappointment. Almost every rocker arm hits on the valve cover. It’s like Edelbrock got 80% done and said “good enough for mopar people” and sent it to market. The whole valve cover rail should have shifted a 1/4” to allow for rocker clearance. You might as well mill the stands off and run a set of T&D or Jesel rockers.

Got a set of t&D for my victor mw’s

 

[1967coronet440]

I am pretty sure worked Victors will win, but I figured I’m between the RPMs/240s and the big boys like the victors. Think I saved some money by not needing the offset rockers. Wish I could have used the Super Victor Max Wedge intake instead of the Indy!!! But alas no low deck love

Ya I got the super victor mw, your 270’s made some serious power.

 

[Hemirunner]

Got a set of t&D for my victor mw’s

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Sweet!

 

[malex]

Ya I got the super victor mw, your 270’s made some serious power.

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The numbers on the 512 were very close to my 505 with the victors. HP was within 3 and torque about 30 less than the victors. Nice to see the trick flows putting out big power like that.

 

[not so famous bob]

That victor head makes good power, but overall, it’s a huge disappointment. Almost every rocker arm hits on the valve cover. It’s like Edelbrock got 80% done and said “good enough for mopar people” and sent it to market. The whole valve cover rail should have shifted a 1/4” to allow for rocker clearance. You might as well mill the stands off and run a set of T&D or Jesel rockers.

-----------------THERTE IS A BUNCH OF BULL SH-- IN THESE POSTS-------------------------
I have a set of victor knock offs, they are very well made, no porosity, and copy the victors very closely, standard port "cnc" versions that flow 352 at .600 , but don't go up much from there. I run hughs rockers and "none" of them hit my mopar perf. valve covers ! We did change the retainers and keepers tho, springs tested good. I run a fast 2.0 f. inj. set up w/ their dist. controlling the timing. The FAST dist. is based on a short chevy type dist. , and took an extreme amount of grinding and cutting the front of drivers side head to get it to clear, other than that, I`m happy w/ them so far. They only weighed 6 pounds liter than apiece than a pair of 915`s I sold. They are extremely tite in an A body fastback tho, can just run my figures between the head and firewall. ( inside hotrod heater under the dash), no room for heater blower motor at all. Would be better in a B body for sure. Haven`t made it to the dragstrip yet, the engine is just now getting broke in , car will turn sideways very easy tho.

 

[Hemirunner]

-----------------THERTE IS A BUNCH OF BULL SH-- IN THESE POSTS-------------------------
I have a set of victor knock offs, they are very well made, no porosity, and copy the victors very closely, standard port "cnc" versions that flow 352 at .600 , but don't go up much from there. I run hughs rockers and "none" of them hit my mopar perf. valve covers ! We did change the retainers and keepers tho, springs tested good. I run a fast 2.0 f. inj. set up w/ their dist. controlling the timing. The FAST dist. is based on a short chevy type dist. , and took an extreme amount of grinding and cutting the front of drivers side head to get it to clear, other than that, I`m happy w/ them so far. They only weighed 6 pounds liter than apiece than a pair of 915`s I sold. They are extremely tite in an A body fastback tho, can just run my figures between the head and firewall. ( inside hotrod heater under the dash), no room for heater blower motor at all. Would be better in a B body for sure. Haven`t made it to the dragstrip yet, the engine is just now getting broke in , car will turn sideways very easy tho.

Let me get this straight.. you’re calling what I said, which is based on my experience with about a half dozen different engines built with genuine Edelbrock Victor heads and various different brands of rocker arms, the worst combo being bulky Harland Sharp rockers, bullshit because of your experience with a copycat head and a brand of rocker arms that I never mentioned? Lol here are a few pictures to illustrate the problem. Not my pics, just grabbed them off the web. You can clearly see how tight the rockers are to the valve cover rail. The worst being the Harland Sharps. Try putting a cast valve cover on that.... if Edelbrock had shifted the valve cover rail up towards the intake by a 1/4”, you’d have all kinds of clearance, even for HS rockers. Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t mean it’s bullshit.

 

[Budnicks]

So this Happened today... will post video to my YouTube Channel. Had a leak at the front of the oil pan/ bottom of the timing cover? Sooo that will be fixed. Otherwise made 4 pulls. They adjusted the timing from 36 to 34 once which dropped a couple Hp so stayed at 36. The Wilson spacer gave the best number for the day.

This is “corrected power” data. I’ll share the other data if it is preferred. I don’t know the proper Dyno etiquette.

The numbers are COOL, but I was glad the “Mystery Mudder” turned out well. To be honest it’s more than I really wanted... and I have mixed feelings about it. I have a Cope Pro Street rmv transmission and we are building a Dana. But a long ways to go yet

It started perfectly, no issues breaking in. The Quick Fuel carburetor was literally “out of the box” barely needing adjustment.

We used 91 octane with less than 10% Race gas, but looks like it can live on 93 octane. Which would be cool.

I’ll find the cam card and give details adout the build in the next post from me on this thread.

I’m sharing this for guys looking at Trick Flow 270s. I am not a mechanic or engine builder. So this is as much as I know for now.

Thanks

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Nice #'s congrats

 

[68 HEMI GTS]

Nice stout combo!! Hope your car is tied up good!

 

[Bigfoots N Mopars]

Next we will relocate springs inboard, mini tub, and Subframe connectors, possibly torque boxes too... building a custom width Dana as well. Think I’m gonna need a roll bar, a lift off 6 pack hood, and...fuel system, better brakes. Good lord where will it end!

 

[gtxracer]

Next we will relocate springs inboard, mini tub, and Subframe connectors, possibly torque boxes too... building a custom width Dana as well. Think I’m gonna need a roll bar, a lift off 6 pack hood, and...fuel system, better brakes. Good lord where will it end!

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It doesn't end, it just keeps costing more. WE all want to go faster and speed costs money. "How fast do you want to go?"
Bob

 

[SlinktRR]

Great numbers, I have never seen that cam before. Comp doesnt have any info on the website for it do you have the cam card? TF PP270 and this big solid looks like a winning combination. Street driving it would be interesting.

Like hemirunner mentioned that motor would probably top out at 775hp or so the way it is pulling at 6k assuming it gets enough air. Congrats.

 

[dvw]

If you need more flow than a 270 why use a Victor when you could use an Indy -1? Victors seem to be a pain in the ***. Indy customer service leaves something to be desired but the products work. On a -1 everthing fits, they flow as good or better than a Victor. My bet is the weigh less as well. So what advantage does a Victor have?
Doug

 

[not so famous bob]

Let me get this straight.. you’re calling what I said, which is based on my experience with about a half dozen different engines built with genuine Edelbrock Victor heads and various different brands of rocker arms, the worst combo being bulky Harland Sharp rockers, bullshit because of your experience with a copycat head and a brand of rocker arms that I never mentioned? Lol here are a few pictures to illustrate the problem. Not my pics, just grabbed them off the web. You can clearly see how tight the rockers are to the valve cover rail. The worst being the Harland Sharps. Try putting a cast valve cover on that.... if Edelbrock had shifted the valve cover rail up towards the intake by a 1/4”, you’d have all kinds of clearance, even for HS rockers. Just because you don’t like what I said doesn’t mean it’s bullshit. View attachment 590521View attachment 590522View attachment 590523

Really not calling u a liar, but ur experiances (probably more than mine) w/ victor type heads ain`t he whole story, I don`t have a problem w/ them, a went w/ the best bang for the buck when I bought the heads. I do think the hughs rockers probably have more clearance than most of the others. I had a set of proform to start w/, and they had 4 rockers that are notched in the upper corners for that reason, I didn`t notice them and didn`t put them on the ends, and they hit , but didn`t when I switched them.