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97 Dakota v6 to v8 swap

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Not a b body question but can anyone tell me what would be involved in swapping a 97 v6 dakota sport to a 5.2 or 5.9 magnum v8? It's a v6 auto but i would want to swap to a v8 manual. I'd also like to get rid of the fuel injection system and go to carbureted. What issues would i run into as far as the computer, electrical, etc? Thanks for any insight.
 
I swapped my 93 from a 3.9l to a 5.2l and later swapped the transmission.
I had everything from another 93 (engine, trans, computer and harness) so it was pretty easy.
Just had to cut down the radiator shroud as the V8 extends further forward.

Unless you are doing some substantial power modifications to a magnum 5.2 or 5.9L, I personally wouldn't change to a carb.
Just my opinion they run very well with injection and don't wear quickly either.
I would recommend the Hughes style intake as the stock "kegger" gets heat soaked in warmer weather.

If you do plan on a carb changeover you'll need a classic style electronic ignition setup or something similar.
Fuel pressure would need to be lowered (somehow) and you'll likely lose your tachometer and get a check engine light all day long.
In essence it's a one off retro type thing you've created.

What if any are your state inspection requirements?
I see your located on planet Earth.

I can't comment on the auto - manual trans changeover.

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Luckily i live in an rural area where we don't have inspections (yet). It's just a dream right now. Not that i need another project but the price is right on the dakota sport so the idea crossed my mind of making a dakora r/t type truck.
 
I rebuilt and installed a 360 in my Son's 99 Dakota. The engine, trans, transfer case and computer were all from a 2001 Ram 1500 originally. It all dropped right in and runs great so far for over a year now. The headers were the best fitting I have ever seen. Not one ding required.

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I am in the process of stuffing a w5 headed 340 stroker motor and an a833 into a 96 dakota.
Luckily I found swap mounts and long tube headers.
Ditching computer and planning holley sniper
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I’m stewing on mine, it is a well used 3.9. I’ve got over 500k on the clock but like it enough to swap it. I was thinking new 5.7 but not sure what trans to use. So I’ll probably go with a good 5.2 or 5.9. I really like my 92 club cab stick. It was really a very good truck and I snagged a nice lil red step side bed for it and have most to repair what it needs.
 
97 would be a second gen right?
5 speed trucks, at least for 97 and 98(maybe 99?) have the infamous "shift light" in the dash cluster in the middle of the speedo, which is controlled by the ECU.
This leads me to believe the ECU is transmission specific. I can't comment on how nice one or the other would play with a swap. 5.2 5 speeds in the second gen are rare. However, you could maybe buy a rebuilt one from an auto parts store or Amazon if need be.
Or not, second gen Dakotas you either find 100 options that cost $5 or parts are unobtainium. Do a lot of research before you pull the trigger!
 
I have been told second gen started when they changed to a rounded front for v8
Gen 3 is the 97 to 04
Gen 4 is 05 to finish

But it depends how you think.
 
I have been told second gen started when they changed to a rounded front for v8
Gen 3 is the 97 to 04
Gen 4 is 05 to finish

But it depends how you think.
The only change to make the Gen 2 was the core support, bumper and hood. The fenders are still the same. Does that make it a new generation? Now the 97 was a total change with hardly nothing being used from the first gen truck.
 
I wish they still made them like mine I would buy another without a doubt !
 
I wish they still made them like mine I would buy another without a doubt !
I have a 95 that I got from my dad in 98. He bought it new and I also have a 96 that was purchased about 4 years ago or so. The 96 is the first year for the OBD II and well, my 2000 Durango with the OBD II acted much better than the 96. The 96 is ok but like the 95 much better even though it's on it's last leg and has been for awhile now.
 
I rebuilt and installed a 360 in my Son's 99 Dakota. The engine, trans, transfer case and computer were all from a 2001 Ram 1500 originally. It all dropped right in and runs great so far for over a year now. The headers were the best fitting I have ever seen. Not one ding required.

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I’m in the middle of putting a ‘93 5.2L into a 1998 v6 Dakota. Although I have the ‘93 v8 PCM I can’t use it because it was OBDI instead of OBDII. Did you just bring your V8 PCM to your swap, adapt the v6 harness/PCM, or do something custom? Thanks
 
Just wanted to say:welcome: from Connecticut.
I have a 93 5.2l 4x4 that I've had since 97.
 
You could probably pick a 98 V8 OBD II ECM on eBay. If you use the search engine on Moparts. org, IIRC there were threads about v6 to V8 swaps in the truck forum a few years ago. They should still be accessible.
 
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I have a 95 that I got from my dad in 98. He bought it new and I also have a 96 that was purchased about 4 years ago or so. The 96 is the first year for the OBD II and well, my 2000 Durango with the OBD II acted much better than the 96. The 96 is ok but like the 95 much better even though it's on it's last leg and has been for awhile now.
Cranky I know this is an older post, but is 96 the first year with the kegger intake?
Chrysler fixed the plenum gasket issue in 99 or 2000. I had to do it on my 98, with only 50k miles on it, because it was acting odd and I had vacuum on both the PCV side and the driver side. Turns out when I got it open it was BAD. Truck ran "fine" before but much better after.
Somewhere in 99/00 they added a second O2 on the front end on the y pipe also. This helped the ECU out, but also made it impossible to do away with a plugged cat or modify the front exhaust without a good deal of $$ also.
My 98 has a single O2 up front, and the back one is there mostly to verify a cat exists. Except the ECU is so basic I zip tied it to the frame rail and it works fine because my cat was plugged 6 ways from Sunday, likely due to the intake issue. And I mean plugged, as in stuff inside rattled around and the housing was actually expanded from the engine forcing the gas through the thing. Not sure how it ran how it did, much less do righteous burnouts in that state. I credit the 318 for it.

To the fellow with the swap, keep the above in mind when you go to figure out you pipes. you need the front O2 for a 98 ECU, AND you need the rear, but 9/10 the rear one is only looking for a different reading then the front one gets so there are ways to save some $$ if you don't need emissions inspections.
 
Cranky I know this is an older post, but is 96 the first year with the kegger intake?
Chrysler fixed the plenum gasket issue in 99 or 2000. I had to do it on my 98, with only 50k miles on it, because it was acting odd and I had vacuum on both the PCV side and the driver side. Turns out when I got it open it was BAD. Truck ran "fine" before but much better after.
Somewhere in 99/00 they added a second O2 on the front end on the y pipe also. This helped the ECU out, but also made it impossible to do away with a plugged cat or modify the front exhaust without a good deal of $$ also.
My 98 has a single O2 up front, and the back one is there mostly to verify a cat exists. Except the ECU is so basic I zip tied it to the frame rail and it works fine because my cat was plugged 6 ways from Sunday, likely due to the intake issue. And I mean plugged, as in stuff inside rattled around and the housing was actually expanded from the engine forcing the gas through the thing. Not sure how it ran how it did, much less do righteous burnouts in that state. I credit the 318 for it.

To the fellow with the swap, keep the above in mind when you go to figure out you pipes. you need the front O2 for a 98 ECU, AND you need the rear, but 9/10 the rear one is only looking for a different reading then the front one gets so there are ways to save some $$ if you don't need emissions inspections.
My 93 has the kegger.
IIRC, the kegger intake came out in 92 on the first year Magnum engines......
 
Cranky I know this is an older post, but is 96 the first year with the kegger intake?
Chrysler fixed the plenum gasket issue in 99 or 2000. I had to do it on my 98, with only 50k miles on it, because it was acting odd and I had vacuum on both the PCV side and the driver side. Turns out when I got it open it was BAD. Truck ran "fine" before but much better after.
Somewhere in 99/00 they added a second O2 on the front end on the y pipe also. This helped the ECU out, but also made it impossible to do away with a plugged cat or modify the front exhaust without a good deal of $$ also.
My 98 has a single O2 up front, and the back one is there mostly to verify a cat exists. Except the ECU is so basic I zip tied it to the frame rail and it works fine because my cat was plugged 6 ways from Sunday, likely due to the intake issue. And I mean plugged, as in stuff inside rattled around and the housing was actually expanded from the engine forcing the gas through the thing. Not sure how it ran how it did, much less do righteous burnouts in that state. I credit the 318 for it.

To the fellow with the swap, keep the above in mind when you go to figure out you pipes. you need the front O2 for a 98 ECU, AND you need the rear, but 9/10 the rear one is only looking for a different reading then the front one gets so there are ways to save some $$ if you don't need emissions inspections.
My 95 has one O2 upstream of the converter (whenever I run a converter lol) but my 96 has one up and downstream of the converter. The OBDI system ended in 95 and the OBDII went on in 96. So far, I haven't run a straight pipe setup on my 96 but the 95 has been going for many years with one. It 'stinks' just like the vehicles of the 60's and earlier :D
 
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