B Body Cruise Control

[mr.bluesky66]

I bought a 1968 Dodge Monaco with a 383 HP and it has a cruise control. I'm just wondering if this is a straight interchange with the 68'?-70' B Body. I've parted and sold a lot of parts over the years but this one has me a little stumped. Anybody have a full system? or Exploded diagram or additional information on this?

 

[PP1RT]

68 charger rt. Dont know if this helps. I think they are the same.

 

[mr.bluesky66]

68 charger rt. Dont know if this helps. I think they are the same.

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thanks, same stem for sure the attaching bracket on the inner fender ? not sure the mechanism that attaches to the brake pedal bracket is also of interest....but hey thanks for the photos PP1RT

 

[PurpleBeeper]

Dang.... I've been working on putting together a cruise control system for my '70 on & off for the last 5 yrs. The only part I don't have is a good 70 b-body cruise lever (have a rough one with the guts hanging out....still looking)

Anyway.... from what I've learned, there is a subtle difference in appearance of the knobs for 68/69/70. I believe it's in 70 that you have 2 wires coming out of the stem instead of 3 wires. I believe 70 is also the first year that doesn't have the vacuum hose going to the cruise control unit. You can tap into a standard brake switch for your cruise, but the stock cruise brake switches have an extra spade connector. Each cruise control bracket is car-specific.

Each body style has a different shape/length of arm, though I've seen a guy cut up a C-body cruise lever & a B-body standard lever & graft them together. Some levers will "fit" and work, but not be exactly correct.

I may have some extra parts if you need something. I have a whole plastic tote of cruise stuff I've collected from swapping & salvage yards over the years.

 

[beanhead]

This is from '68 manual for Plymouth..hope you can read them, the pictures were real clear until they uploaded

 

[mr.bluesky66]

Dang.... I've been working on putting together a cruise control system for my '70 on & off for the last 5 yrs. The only part I don't have is a good 70 b-body cruise lever (have a rough one with the guts hanging out....still looking)

Anyway.... from what I've learned, there is a subtle difference in appearance of the knobs for 68/69/70. I believe it's in 70 that you have 2 wires coming out of the stem instead of 3 wires. I believe 70 is also the first year that doesn't have the vacuum hose going to the cruise control unit. You can tap into a standard brake switch for your cruise, but the stock cruise brake switches have an extra spade connector. Each cruise control bracket is car-specific.

Each body style has a different shape/length of arm, though I've seen a guy cut up a C-body cruise lever & a B-body standard lever & graft them together. Some levers will "fit" and work, but not be exactly correct.

I may have some extra parts if you need something. I have a whole plastic tote of cruise stuff I've collected from swapping & salvage yards over the years.

Dang.... I've been working on putting together a cruise control system for my '70 on & off for the last 5 yrs. The only part I don't have is a good 70 b-body cruise lever (have a rough one with the guts hanging out....still looking)

Anyway.... from what I've learned, there is a subtle difference in appearance of the knobs for 68/69/70. I believe it's in 70 that you have 2 wires coming out of the stem instead of 3 wires. I believe 70 is also the first year that doesn't have the vacuum hose going to the cruise control unit. You can tap into a standard brake switch for your cruise, but the stock cruise brake switches have an extra spade connector. Each cruise control bracket is car-specific.

Each body style has a different shape/length of arm, though I've seen a guy cut up a C-body cruise lever & a B-body standard lever & graft them together. Some levers will "fit" and work, but not be exactly correct.

I may have some extra parts if you need something. I have a whole plastic tote of cruise stuff I've collected from swapping & salvage yards over the years.

 

[mr.bluesky66]

Purple Beeper thanks for your response yes my stem has three wires, it appears to be angled like the Charger in the first response. Oddly I am beginning to think I have everything except good speedometer cables and I have a hunch they will still be available from NAPA. Totally Appreciated.

 

[mr.bluesky66]

This is from '68 manual for Plymouth..hope you can read them, the pictures were real clear until they uploaded
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Bean Head I have a Dodge service manual for 1969 I looked through it but couldn't find the section. You did me a solid favor thanks to your photos I was able to find it in MY service manual. Thanks a million. It appears to be the same for 1968-9 then change in 70' (reference the Purple Beeper above). As with all of you I appreciate the help. Now if I can determine an honest value.....best wishes.

 

[YY1]

speedo cables for cruise can be bought new and fairly cheap from rockauto!

The bracket that mounts to the inner fender changes somewhat depending on model application, but then a lot of them were also the same.

One somewhat hard part to find is the cable attachment at the throttle linkage.

Most people don't grab that for some reason.

It's a small triangular U channel and a roll pin, kind of tricky to get out.

 

[mr.bluesky66]

Thanks YY1 It's still on the throttle but I will get it off today.

 

[Cornpatch MO]

Anyone know of a after market cruise control kit to install on my 1968 satellite. Does not need to appear stock looking. I was thinking there were electronic ones that read off the driveshaft................MO..................

 

[old guys rule]

Anyone know of a after market cruise control kit to install on my 1968 satellite. Does not need to appear stock looking. I was thinking there were electronic ones that read off the driveshaft................MO..................

I would like to know myself. I drive most of the time with the cruise on even in the city and have gotten spoiled (lazy),

 

[YY1]

BTW- the control stalk the OP has is a kind of pricey part.

Not many pre- 71 cars made with CC.

 

[6PKRTSE]

I still have all of the factory cruise on my 70 R/T S.E. Charger. Looks to be the same set up. As mentioned the mounting brackets are different between different body styles.

 

[ord27]

I saw a stem on ebay yesterday..

 

[jaws]

68 and 69 have three wires in the stalk, 70 has 4 wires.

 

[Cornpatch MO]

Anyone know of a after market cruise control kit to install on my 1968 satellite. Does not need to appear stock looking. I was thinking there were electronic ones that read off the driveshaft................MO..................

I see Summit has them, but information is sketchy, and not all parts are included in the kit. Very little info on kits for Mopar.......MO..........

 

[PurpleBeeper]

Dang.... I've been working on putting together a cruise control system for my '70 on & off for the last 5 yrs. The only part I don't have is a good 70 b-body cruise lever (have a rough one with the guts hanging out....still looking)

Anyway.... from what I've learned, there is a subtle difference in appearance of the knobs for 68/69/70. I believe it's in 70 that you have 2 wires coming out of the stem instead of 3 wires. I believe 70 is also the first year that doesn't have the vacuum hose going to the cruise control unit. You can tap into a standard brake switch for your cruise, but the stock cruise brake switches have an extra spade connector. Each cruise control bracket is car-specific.

Each body style has a different shape/length of arm, though I've seen a guy cut up a C-body cruise lever & a B-body standard lever & graft them together. Some levers will "fit" and work, but not be exactly correct.

I may have some extra parts if you need something. I have a whole plastic tote of cruise stuff I've collected from swapping & salvage yards over the years.

CORRECTION you need a cruise control brake switch.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

As has been mentioned 69 & earlier uses similar but different parts, instead of an electrical signal to disable the cruise upon brake application they use a vacuum dump valve attached to the brakes pedal... Starting in 70 it's an electric signal..

So early servo has two vacuum hose connections, late has one..
Early brake switch has a vacuum connection, late switch has the normal two terminals plus two more with a couple short wires to a connector.
Switches early three wire vs late four wire..

 

[Dave6T4]

I put a '71 Chrysler cruise set-up on my '64 Polara years ago. The brake pedal switch has two sets of contacts; one turns the brake lights on, the other turns the CC system off. The original Chrysler switch is hard to find, but I found a switch from RockAuto that does the same job. I think it was for Chev. Suburban.