Bad vibrations in steering wheel since build it up

[Moparjack 489]

A rotor unbalance could do it...

yes , maybe , but can I check a rotor is unbalanced on the car Installed, and how ? Or must remove the rotor of course ..?

 

[Moparjack 489]

Driveshaft balance.
Also, if automatic transmission, check the flexplate to ensure it's true/flat. I went through the same issues with my Super Bee although the entire car shook.

driveshaft I don’t think so , because first I not have vibration in the driver seat or in the whole car , like I know this problems from my station wagon with unbalanced drive shafts ..
in the Charger are also a nice , short Aluminium drive shaft from Danny’s drive line .
How about the flex. plate ? How I can check is it flat and straight without remove it? Just remove dust cover plate turn engine by hand and visual check ?

 

[Lionized]

driveshaft I don’t think so , because first I not have vibration in the driver seat or in the whole car , like I know this problems from my station wagon with unbalanced drive shafts ..
in the Charger are also a nice , short Aluminium drive shaft from Danny’s drive line .
How about the flex. plate ? How I can check is it flat and straight without remove it? Just remove dust cover plate turn engine by hand and visual check ?

One of the tabs on my flexplate was bent then straightened out, a visual check would confirm if you have this exact same issue.
If not, to be completely sure, you'd want to pull it and confirm it's true on a level surface. This would be an absolute last resort considering all of the other information you've received in this thread. Check everything else first!

 

[odcics2]

yes , maybe , but can I check a rotor is unbalanced on the car Installed, and how ? Or must remove the rotor of course ..?

A balanced rotor would have some material removed from around the edges.
Like a small scalloped area. Any cast rotor would not be perfect and should have been balanced.
All the premium Mopar rotors are factory balanced. Aftermarket is hit and miss.

Good luck.

 

[BLK 68 R/T]

I think there’s an issue with the engine. Better pull it and send it to me. I’ll replace it with a built 318. That should take care of the vibration.

 

[pro451bee]

I had a Challenger once that had a vibe to the steering wheel , it was a bad out of balance torque converter.Steering wheel would osculate at a certain speed real bad . Converter had a dent in it .

 

[kiwigtx]

car stand from about 2009 to 2016 on the suspension and tires without any movement , first real drive with running engine was 2016.
and since the first test drive up to now the Charger have bad vibrations start about 60to 70 Miles up to 85-90 miles , after 90 miles I not can feel it really , only very very small vibration like a dildo Maschine from a woman.

I think you need to find a shop that can perform a 4-wheel balance. Not many shop understand old Mopars like the ones we have.
Modern shops just try and adjust tie-rod ends and be done with it. I have actually had shops tell me that they didn't want to align my GTX (excuses ranged from "takes too long" to "it might be expensive")....lucky I have friends who put me in the right direction.

 

[Moparjack 489]

I think there’s an issue with the engine. Better pull it and send it to me. I’ll replace it with a built 318. That should take care of the vibration.

Haha, yes maybe the Hemi the vibration Problem

 

[Moparjack 489]

I had a Challenger once that had a vibe to the steering wheel , it was a bad out of balance torque converter.Steering wheel would osculate at a certain speed real bad . Converter had a dent in it .

Thanks, but I think my problem is in the suspension .

 

[Moparjack 489]

Yesterday I check my outer tie rods , never Check before because the vibrations since the first test drive there, and there was e erything brand new , the whole front suspension. .
But it looks like minimum the driver side of the outer tie rod are junk
https://we.tl/t-WIh3hQvExm

 

[Moparjack 489]

Anyone knows about this screw ? Is one like on 12 and one on 6 a clock , it for holds the white insert inside?
I ask , because I found these 2 screws are little „ lose „

 

[BLK 68 R/T]

View attachment 944570 Anyone knows about this screw ? Is one like on 12 and one on 6 a clock , it for holds the white insert inside?
I ask , because I found these 2 screws are little „ lose „

That’s the lower steering column bearing. Wouldn’t cause a vibration in my opinion. Just holds the steering shaft centered in the column.

 

[Moparjack 489]

Here another short video , it seems on the passenger side also the inner tie rod are junk ? Right ? https://we.tl/t-OGnIQ0NJjJ

 

[Moparjack 489]

Sorry, I complete suspension rookie
But anywhere , I think this are my bad vibrations in the steering wheel !
means I need two new outer and inner tie rods ..., but this my next problem because I not know how I can found theses part‘s .
I know only is a Flaming River rack and pinion ( but no part number , looks like FR1520 but not sure , but is a manual rack quick ) and I was thinking it’s a Mustang 2 spindle , but anywhere on my spindle is weld an extension tube for get fit the tie rod .
But I have no idea what company or part number these outer tie rods , and also not sure about the inner tie rods . But normally the inner must be flaming river , because they include with the rack and pinion , right ?
Maybe anyone Else here have a idea ?
Maybe someone here have also the same IFS front suspension ? It’s the 1 generation IFS from Control freak suspensions .

 

[Moparjack 489]

Ok, today I remove the dust cover on the rack and pinion, and see the “moving play “ is not in the Inner tie rod what I suspect before , it’s direct in the rack and pinion on the “ long” passenger side .
Can anyone say it’s normal play because on the long side of the steering shaft , or is not normal and I need a whole new rack and pinion ? The play you can see and feel only when the wheels are straight or you go with the steering to the right side ( passenger side ) if you turn to the left ( driver side ) the play will reduce not zero , because the inner tie rod shaft go inside the rack

here the video
https://we.tl/t-CKYEszIBV7

 

[Jcharger]

Have you ruled out driveline angles? Steering wheel doesn't sound like that, but vibrations can sometimes be difficult to source.

 

[Moparjack 489]

Have you ruled out driveline angles? Steering wheel doesn't sound like that, but vibrations can sometimes be difficult to source.

Yes car drive also nice and straight , It seems for me the inner nylon inserts in the rack it self wear out and give that little play in the steel rod . Have to buy a new rack I think .

 

[Moparjack 489]

Ok
now I figure out the parts have wear , it’s the rack and pinion and the driver side rod end , that’s causes my vibrations in the steering wheel from about 65-85 miles . I also found out what a part number the flaming river rack is ( FR1502-5) and I will order a new flaming river Rack and pinion.
but now I still look for a replacement of this out end rods and maybe new sleeves ... the inner tie rod of the flaming river Rack&pinion have a 9/16-18 thread , means I need end rods with 9/16 male thread and 5/8” bore hole . i only found some from QA1 with 9/16 but female thread and I need male thread .
any idea where I can found some ?

top picture is what I found from QA1 but with female thread , and I need male thread

Below picture is actual rod end with some wear and sleeve

 

[Moparjack 489]

Ah now I found out they sell sleeves from 9/16 to 5/8 and I connect a nice 5/8 thread new end rod on it , perfekt .
I’m right if I recommend a high quality made in USA 3 piece construct with inner Teflon liner the best choice for the rod end ?
Whats the different in Heim or spherical joint ‘s ?