Barn Find B.S. Or What ?

[70RR]

What is it with every other Ad I read on line the car is a
BARN FIND.. .:thinker:...WTF..Most of these photos have the look like the cars went through a Dust Bowl...A lot I see looked staged to me...Why would some one only post one photo of this rare bard find covered in dust ?..Most have no photos what so ever of the car cleaned..It would take less than 30 min to get that crap off the car and make it look a little better..And post before and after photos...Or is that the plan you see the car covered in dust and dirt hiding all the issues and you start Dreaming of what it could be...And over pay....We all know the more photos you have the better chance it will sell...There are more BARN FINDS than there are barns ...Just my $0.02 ..What do you think?
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[Dennis H]

Rare. 1 of 1. Restored. Lady owned. Caveat Emptor.

 

[Benji]

What is it with every other Ad I read on line the car is a
BARN FIND.. .:thinker:...WTF..Most of these photos have the look like the cars went through a Dust Bowl...A lot I see looked staged to me...Why would some one only post one photo of this rare bard find covered in dust ?..Most have no photos what so ever of the car cleaned..It would take less than 30 min to get that crap off the car and make it look a little better..And post before and after photos...Or is that the plan you see the car covered in dust and dirt hiding all the issues and you start Dreaming of what it could be...And over pay....We all know the more photos you have the better chance it will sell...There are more BARN FINDS than there are barns ...Just my $0.02 ..What do you think?
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My buddy's 1969 Charger 500 has been sitting in a barn for 29 years and the dust is about 1/8th of an inch thick on it. The dust is very fine and sticks to everything. If the car was stored outdoors there wouldn't be any dust as the rain would keep it from collecting. The Charger below has only 30,500 miles, has virtually no rust except for a little behind the rear tires and is a "real" barn find! :icon_mrgreen:

Ben

 

[Donny]

That blower there has enough cfm to blow that dust off big time!

 

[Hemi Rebel]

WtFf. How is that car still sitting in a barn like that? I think you need to have a serious talk with your friend. 29 years is long enough.

 

[tpodwdog]

if you know its there for 29 years...you can hardly call it a barn "find"...now canya ?

 

[vanrj1]

if you know its there for 29 years...you can hardly call it a barn "find"...now canya ?

Nope, now it's a "barn found" ......lol

Is the thing for sale or what. It needs to be restored....:hello2:

 

[YY1]

I think over time "barn find" has been more and more loosely interpreted to mean, next to a barn, near a barn, in a shed, behind the shed, in an alley, next to a house, in a field, etc.

I personally like the ones that either say, or the photo reveals, that there has ben som significant previous work.

I saw one this week that said "true barn find...restored in the 80's.... with color change and new quarters..."

Is that relly a barn find? perhaps it literally was, but i argue it is not the "sprit of the term".

 

[kb67mopar]

Barn, shed, tall tree...doesn't matter to me what it was stored in or under as long as it kept it in good shape and hid it from everyone but me!

That being said, no I don't think half of what people advertise as "barn finds" actually came from a barn. Supposedly my car was a "barn find" yet when I bought it, it was already pulled from said barn. "there are videos of us pulling it out on youtube"....hah never found those and i looked. But like I said I don't care whether or not it was in a barn as long as it kept it in good shape.....well the rust I had doesn't give the barn much credit.

 

[Benji]

WtFf. How is that car still sitting in a barn like that? I think you need to have a serious talk with your friend. 29 years is long enough.

Yeah, the guy who sold it to him 31 years ago called him last month and said he wants to buy it back. We'll see if Tim will sell. He says he is "thinking" about it.

I have repeatedly offered him double what he paid for it back then but for some reason he isn't interested. :laughing11: (He paid $300.00 for it back then, unfortunately that was without the original hemi engine. It now has a 318 in it instead.) :-(



Ben

 

[tpodwdog]

i found these in my barn.....how DID they get in there ?:headbang:

 

[Dako]

Just my $0.02...

-A 'barn find' is when you come across, for the 1st time, what somebody else stored in a barn (dirt, wood, or concrete floor doesn't matter), years ago...kind of preserving it in the state it was when parked...doesn't matter if it is kept clear or used as storage like the one below.

-A 'barn car' is the same thing as above, only you have known about it for some time...maybe you didn't have the cash or time, maybe the owner wasn't willing (ready) to part with it, etc. Since I knew the KS Belle was in my uncles barn (I actually drove it in, at his direction, when I was 15), I classify it as a barn car.

-A 'farm fresh', or 'farm car', is how I would refer to a car that had been stored outside for years. The difference being that it was not protected from the elements and allowed to continue to deteriorate via the elements.

What's nice about all of these is that presented to the right person, at the right time, they can each be brought back.

 

[tpodwdog]

WOW...thats a beautiful car !

 

[Bruzilla]

My 74 Roadrunner was a barn find. The directions I got from the owner were take 301 South to Hawthorne, make a right onto the four lane road, make a left onto a two lane road, make a right onto a dirt road, go to where you see two ruts in the grass and follow those around to a barn with a horse and a female pit bull outside. I got to the barn and there was the car... dirty, dented, dinged, covered in hay, grass, and dust, and pretty much in pieces from the cabin forward.

To answer one of your concerns, I went there with the full intention of buying that car, not to do a photoshoot. I didn't bring a camera as I had no need for one since I would be placing the old Mk I Mod 0 eyeballs on it. The owner agreed to put the car back into driving condition for me and I would be back in two weeks.

I came back two weeks later and the car was still a dinged up dirty mess but it was a dinged up dirty mess that was all in one piece. It was still dirty and nasty, but my focus at that time still wasn't doing a photoshoot, rather it was on wondering if A: the car was going to make it the 50 or so miles back to my house; and B, if I would get busted for making said trip with an illegal tag on the car.

I didn't take my first pictures of the car until it was sitting in my driveway back at casa de Bruzilla, and by then all the dust, dirt, leaves, and other crap had long been blown off by a lot of 70-80 MPH winds encountered while driving back up US 301. ;) I guess if I were a documentary film maker, or working on an article for a magazine, I would have been more focused on visually documenting each step of the process, but my focus was on getting the car and getting it back home.

 

[Bruzilla]

Just my $0.02...

-A 'barn find' is when you come across, for the 1st time, what somebody else stored in a barn (dirt, wood, or concrete floor doesn't matter), years ago...kind of preserving it in the state it was when parked...doesn't matter if it is kept clear or used as storage like the one below.

-A 'barn car' is the same thing as above, only you have known about it for some time...maybe you didn't have the cash or time, maybe the owner wasn't willing (ready) to part with it, etc. Since I knew the KS Belle was in my uncles barn (I actually drove it in, at his direction, when I was 15), I classify it as a barn car.

-A 'farm fresh', or 'farm car', is how I would refer to a car that had been stored outside for years. The difference being that it was not protected from the elements and allowed to continue to deteriorate via the elements.

What's nice about all of these is that presented to the right person, at the right time, they can each be brought back.

LOL! You gotta love Mopar guys! Only a Mopar guy would consider breaking down "Barn Find" into distinct and organized categories, and make sure we differentiate cars found in barns from cars found next to barns. Maybe we should also come up with specific rankings for cars found in garages as found in a one-car garage, two-car garage, three-car garage, with different identifiers for detached and attached garages of each size.

With all this categorization, we could have some Mopar guys busting on other guys at shows by saying "My car is more of a barn find than yours because it was discovered only by me, in a classic style barn... not some pole barn, was covered in three types of dust... your car only had two types, and the barn was 1.6 miles back from the road while your pole barn was right next to a house. Clearly my car is more of a barn find than yours." LOL

To the rest of the car collecting world, a barn find is any car that's been left for dead somewhere... in a barn, a garage, next to a house, in a field, in the woods, etc., and isn't found sitting in a parking lot or next to the highway with a FOR SALE sign on it. Why do we have this deep, genetic, need to categorize everything?

 

[Dako]

Thanks. I have much more in it than it's worth, but the work completed (so far) has been spread over a three year period...that and since it has sentimental value (I too drove it as a kid), I really don't care.

Now, to get this thread back on track.

70RR,

As for cleaning them off to sell: It can go both ways. I understand your comments about cleaning them up to sell...and if it's just been setting out by itself, I would tend to agree, but if it has been stored somewhere that has garnered a lot of 'accumulation', a lot of potential owners get a kick out of finding/ documenting them in their 'stored' condition. I got a hold of my uncle and emphasized that I did not want the car dug out prior to me getting there so I could capture it all in photos. I believe there is more appreciation to be drawn when you can visually (via photos or video) show what you started with.

Now, who else has some 'found' and restored photos?

 

[99ss]

that is one sweet looking car !

 

[Dako]

LOL! You gotta love Mopar guys! Only a Mopar guy would consider breaking down "Barn Find" into distinct and organized categories, and make sure we differentiate cars found in barns from cars found next to barns. Maybe we should also come up with specific rankings for cars found in garages as found in a one-car garage, two-car garage, three-car garage, with different identifiers for detached and attached garages of each size.

With all this categorization, we could have some Mopar guys busting on other guys at shows by saying "My car is more of a barn find than yours because it was discovered only by me, in a classic style barn... not some pole barn, was covered in three types of dust... your car only had two types, and the barn was 1.6 miles back from the road while your pole barn was right next to a house. Clearly my car is more of a barn find than yours." LOL

Okay, so I am a bit consumed by old cars...Clearly, I enjoy them! :happy7:

 

[Bruzilla]

Okay, so I am a bit consumed by old cars...Clearly, I enjoy them! :happy7:

I wish that old garage between Mechanicsville and La Plata on RT 6 up in your area was still open. Those guys had hundreds and hundreds of old cars going back to the 1940s sitting in barns, garages, in the woods, in fields, and everywhere else you could stick them! Best of all they sold parts at great prices.

I was sorry to find out they closed down.

 

[WP29440SE]

to any car guy or gal, there is always something intriguing about an old car that has been stuffed away for whatever reason 20-30-40 years ago just waiting to be re-discovered. especially a rare or desirable car. a lot of people have this misconception that any thing old and found in a barn is going to be rare and worth a ton of money, (special thanks to the discovery channel, the history channel and the other "reality" programs), so a lot of people try to use it as a marketing ploy even if it has already been rediscovered or they simply make it up to tack on an extra 5k or whatever. i have seen plenty of adds that state "barn find" and it clearly didnt come out of any barn nor was it sheltered in any fashion. non-the-less, finding that 6,000 mile original LO23 68 SS hemi dart covered in pigeon **** thats been hiding in a barn for the last 40 + years is one of my fantasies. that charger 500 above is a close second, simply just about as cool as it gets. the 66 belvedere shots above are just awesome. ive had some very low mileage original mopars, but ive never had the experience of finding one that has been in hiding from the daylight, covered in poop for the 40 years. the search continues....