Budget paint (Summit etc) how does it hold up ?

[rustytoolss]

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My 62 Fury wagon, hope to paint this year. All mopars are great...But 62's are very Special.

 

[j-c-c-62]

The car hobby is expensive. I've been in it for 50 plus years. I've alway had to do it with a limited budget. As the years go buy the cost get higher, you all know that. I need to paint my 62 Plymouth. Called today to get prices on paint...the prices they told me are not in my budget ( not even close ! )..As much a I would like to use a Factory color. I may need to look at other options , at a lower price point. I have been looking at Summit Racing paint colors (no they are not factory colors..I may have to accept that ). And as much as I prefer a factory color, I guess some of those summit colors may be close enough for the general color concept.
Can any of you tell me you opinion oy Summit paint. How well does it hold up ? Or maybe you guys can tell me of other brands of budget paint that might be of better quality. There is just no way I can spend $250-$400 a gallon for paint , plus clear, plus all the other needed items, to paint a complete car, engine bay and door jambs...I have no real brand prefferance. Base coat..or even single stage. The car is parked inside 99% of the time

There used to be a paint/body shop vendor pre covid that traveled the car show circuit. He was from NY area?. He had a tent full of various paints ad colors, etc at prices today would sell out on the first day.
I bought a lot of material from him.
My show attendance has waned post covid, but I have never seen him again.
Wonder if he is still around?

 

[Black_Sheep]

My friends Ford is painted with Summit base/clear, it laid down nice and seems to be holding up well…

 

[rustytoolss]

5 qts sprayable. 3 wet coats no engine bay or door jambs. Had almost a pint leftover.
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I've been checking into Restoratio Shop paint kits. This may be my answer. I don't think that a local paint supplier could come close to these prices, with free shipping also. Have you use much of the products ? BCCC ? Looks like they sell kit with 2 different clears (std-deluxe).

 

[azblackhemi]

I've been checking into Restoratio Shop paint kits. This may be my answer. I don't think that a local paint supplier could come close to these prices, with free shipping also. Have you use much of the products ? BCCC ? Looks like they sell kit with 2 different clears (std-deluxe).

Only used their paint the one time but have bought other supplies from TCP and have been happy. I wouldn't hesitate to use the BC/CC from them. I would go with the higher line clear though. It would probably last the longest.

 

[tak419]

The car hobby is expensive. I've been in it for 50 plus years. I've alway had to do it with a limited budget. As the years go buy the cost get higher, you all know that. I need to paint my 62 Plymouth. Called today to get prices on paint...the prices they told me are not in my budget ( not even close ! )..As much a I would like to use a Factory color. I may need to look at other options , at a lower price point. I have been looking at Summit Racing paint colors (no they are not factory colors..I may have to accept that ). And as much as I prefer a factory color, I guess some of those summit colors may be close enough for the general color concept.
Can any of you tell me you opinion oy Summit paint. How well does it hold up ? Or maybe you guys can tell me of other brands of budget paint that might be of better quality. There is just no way I can spend $250-$400 a gallon for paint , plus clear, plus all the other needed items, to paint a complete car, engine bay and door jambs...I have no real brand prefferance. Base coat..or even single stage. The car is parked inside 99% of the time

Good friend of mine worked 20 years for a PPG Platinum dealer and now works for PPG themselves as a rep. Whatever you use, go with a name brand manufacturer, whether it PPG, Dupont, BASF. They make off brands, Omni, Nason, etc.. But do your research, many of the base or single stage won't have the same pigment content, meaning more coats to cover. So did you really save money ? Also, the clears may not have UV resistance, or as much as the name brand paint. So is your paint gonna fade in 2 yrs ? The cheaper paints are meant for someone who wants a quick paint job, then to sell it, or maybe a car that's always garaged. DO your research, cause to redo it in 2-3 yrs it'll cost more in the long run than to spend a little extra now, and have paint that'll still look good in 20 yrs. I did my car in PPG 20 yrs ago, still shines like day 1.

 

[rustytoolss]

Good friend of mine worked 20 years for a PPG Platinum dealer and now works for PPG themselves as a rep. Whatever you use, go with a name brand manufacturer, whether it PPG, Dupont, BASF. They make off brands, Omni, Nason, etc.. But do your research, many of the base or single stage won't have the same pigment content, meaning more coats to cover. So did you really save money ? Also, the clears may not have UV resistance, or as much as the name brand paint. So is your paint gonna fade in 2 yrs ? The cheaper paints are meant for someone who wants a quick paint job, then to sell it, or maybe a car that's always garaged. DO your research, cause to redo it in 2-3 yrs it'll cost more in the long run than to spend a little extra now, and have paint that'll still look good in 20 yrs. I did my car in PPG 20 yrs ago, still shines like day 1.

Good points. I understand. The car will be garaged 99 percent of the time.

 

[rustytoolss]

Only used their paint the one time but have bought other supplies from TCP and have been happy. I wouldn't hesitate to use the BC/CC from them. I would go with the higher line clear though. It would probably last the longest.

How long ago did you paint your car ? How has the paint held up ? does it sit out/ or garaged most of the time ? thanks for all of your help.

 

[azblackhemi]

How long ago did you paint your car ? How has the paint held up ? does it sit out/ or garaged most of the time ? thanks for all of your help.

I only painted it a year and a half ago so can't speak of durability but here in Phoenix even the best paint won't hold up long outside. Mine are always stored inside after being painted. I have a regular customer who has me paint a car for him and then he never gets around to finishing them up. Two of them just sat out in the sun and even though they were painted with top of the line PPG they went to Hell in about 4 years. Any car with a nice paint job should not be stored outside.

 

[rustytoolss]

I only painted it a year and a half ago so can't speak of durability but here in Phoenix even the best paint won't hold up long outside. Mine are always stored inside after being painted. I have a regular customer who has me paint a car for him and then he never gets around to finishing them up. Two of them just sat out in the sun and even though they were painted with top of the line PPG they went to Hell in about 4 years. Any car with a nice paint job should not be stored outside.

One more question. You said you did not paint the door jambs etc. But how well/ close did the Restoration shop paint match the factory Spannaker White ?

 

[azblackhemi]

One more question. You said you did not paint the door jambs etc. But how well/ close did the Restoration shop paint match the factory Spannaker White ?

You can tell the difference but the 45 year old paint is definatly faded and yellowed so matching it probably isn't possible. I'll get a picture in a bit.

 

[azblackhemi]

Actually looking at it it looks pretty close. Not sure if the pictures show it but it's hard to tell the difference.

 

[rustytoolss]

Actually looking at it it looks pretty close. Not sure if the pictures show it but it's hard to tell the difference.
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Only reason I asked, is because TCP says that the name of the paints does not = factory colors/codes...But looking at yours, they look close enough to me. Thanks again

 

[Krooser]

Good friend of mine worked 20 years for a PPG Platinum dealer and now works for PPG themselves as a rep. Whatever you use, go with a name brand manufacturer, whether it PPG, Dupont, BASF. They make off brands, Omni, Nason, etc.. But do your research, many of the base or single stage won't have the same pigment content, meaning more coats to cover. So did you really save money ? Also, the clears may not have UV resistance, or as much as the name brand paint. So is your paint gonna fade in 2 yrs ? The cheaper paints are meant for someone who wants a quick paint job, then to sell it, or maybe a car that's always garaged. DO your research, cause to redo it in 2-3 yrs it'll cost more in the long run than to spend a little extra now, and have paint that'll still look good in 20 yrs. I did my car in PPG 20 yrs ago, still shines like day 1.

I have been using Kirker paint for 20 years. A couple years ago I saw my old Peterbilt that I painted in 2005...shined like a babys ***. Single stage urethane.

 

[rustytoolss]

I have been using Kirker paint for 20 years. A couple years ago I saw my old Peterbilt that I painted in 2005...shined like a babys ***. Single stage urethane.

I guess that about says it All !!!!!

 

[Tias63]

TCP also has a color library from the 1920's on.

We are now on Paint Project number 3. My Dad had the 63 Sport Fury painted WW-1, White. But at a show I was told that the white is more of a 68 Chrysler White--and very white it was. On the second time around I decided to go with TCP, and paid the extra for the color matching according to the paint codes, honestly, looked the same when it was all done. Every car show I go to, seems there are those that comment that it's not the right shade of white. We now have many rust issues and paint feels soft. But I can't bag on TCP too much, I think my paint guy did not mix the Single Stage right. Last I checked TCP not longer sells over the counter, online orders only.
Almost thinking of giving up on the original paint color Ermine White, and going with the DD-1 Medium Metallic Blue, two stage.

 

[BB BEEPER]

I used Kirker Bc-Cc from TP Tools in Canfield, Ohio. I went to a Paint distributor near me and was quoted over $2k. I remember the sales lady telling me that $800 clear looks so much better than $400 clear. And she said it with a straight face.
Kirker was about $500 base, activator and clear, 2 gallons each, bad thing not ralley red but Dodge Viper Red. So no, not orginal color.

 

[1968rt]

Ive had good luck with Nason single stage. Really nice shine, lays down smooth.