cant get a 4 speed in a tesla....
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They'll have to pry my cold, dead hands off the steering wheel and pistol grip of my classic Mopar.
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I have made my living, raced, and had most of my fun from the internal combustion engine. One of my fellow car club members purchased a Tesla plaid. I could never afford one and have no plans to try to buy an electric vehicle, but he gave me a ride, and the performance takes your breath away. We went out to a road where we used to race as teenagers, and in approximately 1/8 mile we were up to 130 mph and then back to a stop, it stops as well as it accelerates. We have three members in the club that have Hell Cats, I have driven a couple of those, and I hate to say it but the Tesla is the fastest streetcar in the club. I have a procharged 410 in a 69 Cuda and I cannot hold a candle to it. My Cuda will break the tires loose by just rolling into the throttle, the Tesla does not spin a tire under full acceleration, it is weird. The other weird thing is the Tesla has what they call celebration mode, when you hit the button, music plays the gull wing doors flap and the lights all flash, really funny to watch.just one more reason not to get one. it hit me last night cruseing home last night in my challenger (71) from the cruse in. Have a nice day and happy mothers day
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My late wife owned 5 cars in her life, all sticks. The first one was a '68 Toyota Corona 3 speed column shifter bench seat car. She knew how to drive a stick before I knew how to drive! I still have it. She'd become a Subaru girl and the last 2, a '93 Legacy and an '01 Forester, she had to fight with the salesmen to get a stick! She taught our son the drive on her car and his first car was a Legacy wagon stick from his grandfather. My grandson wanted to learn to drive on a stick so I gave him the '93.
You can get a Charger with fake exhaust sounds and vibrations! Then you can pick up a chick who fakes the Big O! Fake simulated life in the 21st century!
Mine is an automatic.
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well, four speeds are for men, so........
I got a half dozen 4 speed cars too for when i'm feeling manly.
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Back in the day my wife would make fun of guys with muscle cars and "Ratamatics" as she called them!
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And if autos are for women..
Where does that leave the the three on the tree people?
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I never said auto are for women! 
This one has six speeds! It's like driving a Peterbilt with a pistol grip shifter! Lol
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you have a fleet of chargers that need to be Peter-built....... get to work 
My son in law's car died unexpectedly a couple years ago, so I gave him a loaner, which was a 5 speed stick. I was shocked and amused to discover that he did not have a clue how to drive it. He was 38 at the time. My daughter laughed at him too, I taught her to drive a stick when she was 16.
Wasn't funny having to replace the clutch tho after I got it back-
Wasn't funny having to replace the clutch tho after I got it back-
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My Peterbilt had 12 more, but 18 speeds weren't common even when it was new. When I started driving in the late 70s, the old timers looked down on guys who hadn't driven twin sticks. I thrashed a few when I was a rookie, but never with a load.
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wife's nickname is "Pedals" ....... my mom could also drive a stick, she learned in the 40s; for today's women, it is a lost art
That reminds me of my mother driving, she always called the gas pedal the "footfeet". Never figured that one out back then, but recently figured out that her dad taught her to drive way back when the throttle in cars of his era was called a "foot feed"
My step father who bought the 70 Charger R/T SE brand new,worked as the service manager of a Peterbilt dealership. He used to bring home brand new Peterbilt trucks with the plastic still on the seats.
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Tesla's will be supported by people that want to go fast. What I mean by that, is they are simply after a 0-100mph buzz. It's like the Japanese motorcycles too, I mean some of those bikes are faster then basically every car, and a lot of those bikes are faster then most common cars on the road. By a wide margin.
But it's an EV. Or a Japanese bike, for that matter.
And the people that are after a 0-100mph time, well, if that's what they like good on them.
I am a gearhead. I like ICE. I like it because of the engineering differences in so many variations of them. I like tweaking on them, I like how they have different HP or torque curves, and the characteristic of them. I like them from old tractors, old bikes, 4 wheelers, and yes, cars. I favor a V8, but I find things like Honda's 90'e era Vtech, especially the S2000 or even the Prelude to be fascinating. I like forced induction small engines. Inline 6 is another one, and they seem to be catching on with younger crowds as I see people doing stuff to old stovebolts or Ford 300's, and yes even slants.
There is somewhat badly translated phrase from Japan that fits this I think. If you look up the old 90's TV series where they put cars on an actual race track to test them, and raced them too, you will see when they interview the drivers in the subtitles they commonly will describe "the characteristic of the car". This is a poor translation of them essentially trying to describe the road manners, handling, power output and how all of those are applied as a whole to the vehicle. Numbers on paper are one thing. What is it like to drive it?
200HP@whateverRPM. Ok, how about the power curve, and how did the manufacturer apply it with gear ratio, and consider weight of the car and even gear ratio/power/lateral G on a corner? How fast can you come out of a turn on a windy road?
That is me. It doesn;t have to be the fastest. It has to be interesting. Driving a slow car really fast can be 1000% fun compared to something without personality.
To me, a 5000lb EV has no characteristic, outside of instant power. The computers control almost everything, and the vehicle doesn;t really require much in terms of operator input to do it's thing. On top of that, the weight of them and range issues have prevented them from being considered in the "handling" areas, I mean go look at the few that bravely posted times from nurgberg ring. They almost tied records set from 20+ years ago now.
They need to overcome the weight and figure out how to allow drivers to actually drive them before they will get any interest from me.
But it's an EV. Or a Japanese bike, for that matter.
And the people that are after a 0-100mph time, well, if that's what they like good on them.
I am a gearhead. I like ICE. I like it because of the engineering differences in so many variations of them. I like tweaking on them, I like how they have different HP or torque curves, and the characteristic of them. I like them from old tractors, old bikes, 4 wheelers, and yes, cars. I favor a V8, but I find things like Honda's 90'e era Vtech, especially the S2000 or even the Prelude to be fascinating. I like forced induction small engines. Inline 6 is another one, and they seem to be catching on with younger crowds as I see people doing stuff to old stovebolts or Ford 300's, and yes even slants.
There is somewhat badly translated phrase from Japan that fits this I think. If you look up the old 90's TV series where they put cars on an actual race track to test them, and raced them too, you will see when they interview the drivers in the subtitles they commonly will describe "the characteristic of the car". This is a poor translation of them essentially trying to describe the road manners, handling, power output and how all of those are applied as a whole to the vehicle. Numbers on paper are one thing. What is it like to drive it?
200HP@whateverRPM. Ok, how about the power curve, and how did the manufacturer apply it with gear ratio, and consider weight of the car and even gear ratio/power/lateral G on a corner? How fast can you come out of a turn on a windy road?
That is me. It doesn;t have to be the fastest. It has to be interesting. Driving a slow car really fast can be 1000% fun compared to something without personality.
To me, a 5000lb EV has no characteristic, outside of instant power. The computers control almost everything, and the vehicle doesn;t really require much in terms of operator input to do it's thing. On top of that, the weight of them and range issues have prevented them from being considered in the "handling" areas, I mean go look at the few that bravely posted times from nurgberg ring. They almost tied records set from 20+ years ago now.
They need to overcome the weight and figure out how to allow drivers to actually drive them before they will get any interest from me.
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