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Car wants to stall when I give it gas from a stop

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Hi all . Maybe someone can give me an idea on why this has happened a few times. Took my 70 RR out for a spin on this beautiful Sunday. She started right up, idling fine, pulled out and started cruising. About 15 minutes later, I was at a light. When it turned green, I gave it gas and in the middle of the intersection, she stalled. I slipped it into neutral and started her right up again, then back into drive and off I went. This has happened a few times before, and sometimes if I eased up off the gas pedal, and then pumped it a little, she wouldn't stall but would feel like she wanted to and then go right back to running fine. I'm thinking maybe the fuel pump is hinky? Also, sometimes when cruising, if I kick it down, I get that same symptom, wants to stall, but I ease up on the pedal and she's fine. It's intermittent too, doesn't happen a lot. This happen to anyone else? Any ideas?
 
sounds like carb/fuel problem.....Could be vapor problem, fuel boiling out of bowels ...Check fuel level after warm up.....look at is when it is hot & stalling can you look down the throat of the carb & see gas running out of your venturies? If you can then you are probably boiling the fuel in the carb and causing it to run rich and stall.


if vapor lock use phenolic carb spacer, make sure the fuel line is routed away from high heat areas...make sure timing is correct can cause over heating

Also reset..Set idle mixture with a vacuum gauge hooked up to carb. At idle speed (around 800 rpms) set idle mixture one screw at a time by turning screw in or out till you get the highest amount of vacuum...


http://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Troubleshooting.htm
 
I had a vapor lock issue on another car that acted allot like that, I would try to narrow it down before you do anything. If possible I'd route a fuel pressure gauge somewhere you can see it while driving it to eliminate fuel pressure. A faulty float is another possibility or even an accelerator pump, they'll cause a nasty bog while accelerating if not working properly.
 
I would say possibly accelerator pump. Next time when you shut your car off or before you start her up take the air cleaner of and open your primaries all the way. You should be able to see a strong shot of fuel get dumped into the primaries. Also I know this sounds dumb but I thought I had a problem like this and I solved it by looking at my fuel gauge. The tank was close to empty so when I'd floor it all the gas would rush to the back of the tank and the car would stumble.

I'm not sure in this case it would be vapor lock because you say it happened 15 mins after start up. That's not a lot of time for the engine to get so hot it starts messing with the fuel.
 
Thanks guys. I'm going to try to diagnose it by observing what happens in the carb as you all suggested above. IIRC, my 70 Satellite used to do the same thing sometimes.
 
What kind of carb is it ?? let me make a guess it's probably a Edelbrock Carb too... very common sounding symptoms & complaints with them... how long since you have changed fuel filters ?? what kind of pump electric or mechanical ?? what engine ?? can you see fuel in the filter ?? is the engine getting hot, is there a bunch of excessive under hood heat ?? do you have a filter before the pump & before the carb ?? how old is all of these parts ?? have you done any mods or tuning lately ?? is it the original fuel lines & fuel system ?? etc. more info would be good too... I wonder if your fuel pick-up/sending unit picking up crud from the bottom of the fuel tank when it gets low, crap going thru your fuel system getting into your carb causing the accelerating or float level/supply issues possibly or some other cause from crap in the fuel system... has the tank been replaced ?? has the fuel sending unit or the sock on the end of it, ever been replaced ??... These older cars with old fuel systems are prone to debris getting into the pick-up/sending unit or the sock deteriorating sucking crud, corrosion, sediments, into the pick-up or allowing debris to get into the lines, causing an intermittent fuel problem... It could be something none fuel related too, like a bad wire or a bad coil getting hot etc. too... IMHFO we really need more info & a better description of all the symptoms & all parts involved, to give a good guess or theory on what actually might be going on here... It's just wild a$$ guessing with out more information... Depends on what the actual cause really is, need to figure that out 1st... maybe you could isolate or insolate the fuel lines & carb from direct engine or under hood heat, cast iron really absorbs allot of heat & stores it for a long time... If it's a heat related issue... Sometimes you can just block of the heat riser to the intake manifold or add a phenolic spacer or heat shield under the carb, to help keep the carb cool, prevent vapor lock or heating the fuel in the carb... Sometimes vapor lock is a cause too, maybe the return lines for the vapor canister are partially clogged & not allowing the vapor to vent back to the tank, maybe a tank vents clogged on old fuel system, crap or bugs gets in them sometimes, maybe you could clear out the lines blow air thru all of them... I'm just spit-balling here, hopefully it's something simple... good luck

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common problems with old fuel systems
 
Thanks Bud. I know that there can be a multitude of causes. Was hoping someone had a magic answer for me. So, you guessed right, Edelbrock Carb on a 383 with an air-grabber, mechanical pump. Car was totally restored about 8 years ago, engine rebuilt to stock specs, new fuel system (tank, guts, lines, pump). Engine runs great, idles smooth, no misses, runs cool on the temp gauge. The problem is very intermittent and happens rarely, so I don't think it's a bad wire or coil. I haven't changed the fuel filter in a few years, so will do that ASAP. Quite possible there is just some crud floating around that blocks the line. I will also check the lines and see if they can be insulated. Also will check what's going on in the carb. It's one of those problems that will just take time to diagnose, checking things step by step. Problem is that since it happens so rarely, I won't really know which of all the little things I do is what resolved it.


What kind of carb is it ?? let me make a guess it's probably a Edelbrock Carb too... very common sounding symptoms & complaints with them... how long since you have changed fuel filters ?? what kind of pump electric or mechanical ?? what engine ?? can you see fuel in the filter ?? is the engine getting hot, is there a bunch of excessive under hood heat ?? do you have a filter before the pump & before the carb ?? how old is all of these parts ?? have you done any mods or tuning lately ?? is it the original fuel lines & fuel system ?? etc. more info would be good too... I wonder if your fuel pick-up/sending unit picking up crud from the bottom of the fuel tank when it gets low, crap going thru your fuel system getting into your carb causing the accelerating or float level/supply issues possibly or some other cause from crap in the fuel system... has the tank been replaced ?? has the fuel sending unit or the sock on the end of it, ever been replaced ??... These older cars with old fuel systems are prone to debris getting into the pick-up/sending unit or the sock deteriorating sucking crud, corrosion, sediments, into the pick-up or allowing debris to get into the lines, causing an intermittent fuel problem... It could be something none fuel related too, like a bad wire or a bad coil getting hot etc. too... IMHFO we really need more info & a better description of all the symptoms & all parts involved, to give a good guess or theory on what actually might be going on here... It's just wild a$$ guessing with out more information... Depends on what the actual cause really is, need to figure that out 1st... maybe you could isolate or insolate the fuel lines & carb from direct engine or under hood heat, cast iron really absorbs allot of heat & stores it for a long time... If it's a heat related issue... Sometimes you can just block of the heat riser to the intake manifold or add a phenolic spacer or heat shield under the carb, to help keep the carb cool, prevent vapor lock or heating the fuel in the carb... Sometimes vapor lock is a cause too, maybe the return lines for the vapor canister are partially clogged & not allowing the vapor to vent back to the tank, maybe a tank vents clogged on old fuel system, crap or bugs gets in them sometimes, maybe you could clear out the lines blow air thru all of them... I'm just spit-balling here, hopefully it's something simple... good luck

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common problems with old fuel systems
 
I do have the same problem, I have a 66 Belvedere with 2 brl carb on a 273.
Stalling happened at start up at the traffic light, that when I press hard on pedal, not when I ease up.
Driving on highway is nightmare, I cannot go over 50 MPH, some time less. it wont take fuel and acceleration. It stalls but resume if I let go with the pedal. I cleaned the carb, pressure fuel and air washed it.
Found a filter bet the tank and the pump clogged, replaced it.
I noticed bubbles in the filter bet the pump and carb, cannot figure what is the cause even I put a new pump. Will update you with the results.
 
Just a suggestion as it sounds like a similar issue i just got sorted out. (thx to the support of the members here)
Check you fuel pump push rod and measure it for it's length, should be 3.22".
Sounds far fetched but my car had the same stalling on higher rpm's and take-off's.
Basically when it really needs fuel he empties the float bowls and the pump does not stroke enough to keep them full so you run out of juice.
When go easy on it again the bowls will fill up again and you can drive along.
Only 2 bolts to remove the pump and remove the 3/8" plug below it and you can retrieve the push rod and measure it.

Edit: See my thread regarding my issues with info and pictures.
http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/new-mechanical-fuel-pump-not-working.136537/
 
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It has reached full warm up and operating temp by then? Does it continue past 30 minutes.
 
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