Door Hinge Bushing installation

[Grabbergreendream]

I think I understand. Let me see if I got this straight. On the photo I posted: The lower brass bushing is upside down so I need to remove it and flip it around so the shoulder rests on the fender hinge. The upper brass bushing needs to be removed from the fender hinge and placed on the door hinge with the shoulder on top of the door hinge with the rest of the bushing sliding into the fender hinge.

Remove that hinge half from the body & the other half from the door so you can work on the hinge in a vise in its entirety. Dont overthink it. File or grind the access off both bushings bottoms and flanges if it bothers you. Bend the flange on the mating half if needed & assemble the hinge with the pin. After that put the entire hinge in the vise using sockets over the hinge pins (surrounding the pin) and tighten the vise to close it tight.
Its always going to be "not original" at this point. No reason to make things more complicated, but you have to work on the hinge as a whole, with both halves off the car. If it was loose enough to warrant bushings, your going to realign the door anyway.
Good luck.

 

[64Orange]

Remove that hinge half from the body & the other half from the door so you can work on the hinge in a vise in its entirety. Dont overthink it. File or grind the access off both bushings bottoms and flanges if it bothers you. Bend the flange on the mating half if needed & assemble the hinge with the pin. After that put the entire hinge in the vise using sockets over the hinge pins (surrounding the pin) and tighten the vise to close it tight.
Its always going to be "not original" at this point. No reason to make things more complicated, but you have to work on the hinge as a whole, with both halves off the car. If it was loose enough to warrant bushings, your going to realign the door anyway.
Good luck.

That's a great explanation, thank you. However I sent my hinges to @MoparLeo for a rebuilding.

 

[MoparLeo]

Another very happy customer.
Thank you for your business.
Leo Waiting to hear back from the machine shop that manufactures the custom hinge parts for me. Material cost went up a lot this year . I will hold these prices for now.

 

[Matts68bird]

thanks for the info

 

[Jeff Peterson]

We just had another pair done by @MoparLeo

 

[Matts68bird]

So from what im taking from this, is there is no bushing kit available to the public that will drop in to factory size hinges? I have a 68 RR and was going to repair them before I hang the doors back on for my quarter panel replacement. I can ream to fit pin that's not a problem, I just want to know if there is something out there that fit stock holes . I will only have to do the lowers. the simple hinge top is fine with no play.

 

[Sam69sat]

Another very happy customer.
Thank you for your business.
Leo Waiting to hear back from the machine shop that manufactures the custom hinge parts for me. Material cost went up a lot this year . I will hold these prices for now.

I have a worn 67 b body hinge and it's already hogged out to .417 at the widest point. Would it be rebuildable with 27/64 pins (do they even make them) or is it a lost cause?

 

[MoparLeo]

The largest poins that I have are 7/16" But they will only work on lower hinges that were not drilled off center by the factory. The laregest I normally use are .406 diameter.
Never us a bushing in the lowers. Steel pins only.

 

[AR67GTX]

I’ve rebuilt a couple sets of 66/67 door hinges with kits from RestoRick which involves drilling/reaming the hinges for over-size hinge pins rather than add bushings. His kits don’t mention earlier years so may not be relevant to the PO question.

Restorations by Rick Kreuziger - Product and Component Restoration Detailed Information

 

[gkent]

I have to laugh when I read comments like "if they were meant to have bushings the factory would have used them" and " the bushings will wear out". The simple fact is that since the earliest mass production the manufacturers have always sought the least expensive way to make things last till their "best before date". That said, door hinges were never meant to last 5 years let alone 50! THAT is why they didn't use bushings !! As for modifing them with bushings, it makes way more sense to install bushings which can be replaced when they wear as opposed to pins that require boring, reaming and a larger oversized pins each and every time they need replacing.

If you're after "correct appearing" then you have no choice but to use oversize pins. If you want trouble-free and longer life, go with bushings.

 

[MoparLeo]

You have to permanently modify the hinges to accept bushings. The pins lasted 50 years, bushings ?

 

[gkent]

You have to permanently modify the hinges to accept bushings. The pins lasted 50 years, bushings ?

You can argue the point all you want BUT when bushings wear out you replace them. But when the pins wear the bores out they have to be enlarged for new pins. Which is easier - popping in new bushings or boring the holes (with an oddball carbide bit I might add !!

 

[MoparLeo]

The pins will last longer than you will. Once and done.
Cars were made from steel and lasted if they didn't rust.
I doubt many of the "modern Cars" will be around 50 years from now, Bushings and all.
Our old cars were passed down generation to generation.
New cars are lucky to last through the car payments.

 

[jayco91]

My whole thoughts on the door bushing debate. The purist will say the factory didn't use bushings and so forth.... I get it they do a great job but remember folks these were just regular cars back then meant to be driven daily. How many of you are going to put 100,000 miles on your car before you "trade it in"? Nobody. Most people are using their car for occasional rides. Brass bushing should last for as long as most people here will own their car. Going to put them in my 69 Charger before I spend $300 plus on "correct" repair. Just my two cents.