Eagle Eye - Meep's new name!

[bigmanjbmopar]

Where to begin? Well while at Meep's real man cave (I asked for help in tuning the 493) We were taking the distributor out to make some manual advance adjustments and the bronze distrb gear came out with it. So as it came out, Meep noticed the gears were stipped, after futher check not only as it half way done but the bushing in the block was a bit loose as well. Believe it or not Meep had them on a shelf and replaced them for me Good guy alert!

Yes I have a cam button for roller cams, not sure I installed it right but its there. just wonder if the gear itself is just a cheap knock off from 440source? what do you guys think? Oh and did I mention what a cool dude Meep-Meep is?

 

[Pops1967GTX]

That’s meep for for you .....Does this mean a steak is on the way..............

 

[super-bee_ski]

That darn Eagle Eye...
He's a keeper!

Truly, good catch Meep-Meep!
So, damaged gear on the Dizzy?
(I kinda wish I was up there with you guys)

 

[Cranky]

Is the shaft made in China? Ask 440 Source where it came from.....and make sure the roller cam is a billet and the drive teeth on it are good.

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

I'm pretty sure it was made somewhere not in the USA who knows, some slave camp outside of dong puq I dunno

Notice the back side where it rode on the block bushing, dam near flatten

 

[Cranky]

I'm pretty sure it was made somewhere not in the USA who knows, some slave camp outside of dong puq I dunno

Notice the back side where it rode on the block bushing, dam near flatten

Yup, I saw that.....and it's not the first time. Just hope the filter picked up the filings. Might be worth it to check the bearings to make sure they look ok. People think brass is a soft metal when it's really not and it sure isn't soft enough to act as a high speed high load bearing....

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

Well I did buy him a Philly Cheese steak sandwich for lunch does that count? Plus replaced the parts he had with new mopar performance ones from summit

That’s meep for for you .....Does this mean a steak is on the way..............

 

[conv67bdere]

First . . . interesting shape to the teeth on that gear ( probably did not help with trying to tune the car )
Second . . . thanks for ratting out Meeps so we all know ( this is a good ratting out )
Lastly . . . Kudos to Meeps for being such a great guy and helping out another FBBO member - that is what makes this site so great !

 

[Meep-Meep]

Thanks for the kind words Bigman!

I first knew something was odd when I checked the advance weight spring tension by twisting the rotor and it felt like I was moving the distributor shaft as if the oil pump drive and distributor shaft were one! Well, that's because they were. The distributor shaft was jammed in the gear hard. Also the distributor didn't sit flush on the block so the clamp just jammed the whole assembly, through the distributor housing bearings, to the gear and against that block bushing when it was tightened by the clamp. Looking in the hole as general principal I saw the gear had an unusual wear pattern. The distributor shaft pilot hole in the gear itself measured .485" and the shaft was right at 1/2". The gently used bronze drive from the parts room measured .515". I dropped it in and found the block bushing was toast as well so proceeded to change the block bushing using the Meep proprietary custom made tool! I built that when I needed to do the same job on the hemi. If anyone needs to do an in-situ oil pump drive shaft bushing job let me know and you can borrow it. All you will need is a 1/4" pipe tap and a slide hammer adapted to a 1/4 male pipe fitting to pull the old bushing.

Anyway, I still have some work to do on Bigman's car but it's a start, now that I hopefully stopped the metal from flying around the engine.

Cranky, one of my old buddies was there that day machining axles while keeping an eye on the tuning. He made the exact same comment regarding the bronze. Yes, bronze is tough stuff and if aluminum bronze it's even worse! It may not be a bad idea to check the rod and main bearings.

 

[dieseldazzle]

Alex has always had a good eye and bordered on perfectionist. He is always willing to help out. He has been helping me my dad and my cousins and uncles since the 80s. Great job!

 

[Meep-Meep]

Alex has always had a good eye and bordered on perfectionist. He is always willing to help out. He has been helping me my dad and my cousins and uncles since the 80s. Great job!

Only one person I know goes by the name of Dazzle. Florida???!!!

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

Here is what a new gear and properly made one looks like lol

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Yup, I saw that.....and it's not the first time. Just hope the filter picked up the filings. Might be worth it to check the bearings to make sure they look ok. People think brass is a soft metal when it's really not and it sure isn't soft enough to act as a high speed high load bearing....

I will be changing the oil soon and had done once already prior to finding this, I have also checked all the Napa gold oil filters each change to see if there is anything in there and so far so good.

 

[383man]

Myself I could tell from reading Meeps post that he is a guy who knows his stuff and he proved it again. I say thanks to Meep for being sharp and helping a fellow Mopar man ! Thats the great part I love of this hobby that even a guy who knows his stuff is kind enough to help anyone out and takes the time to do it. A+ for Meep !! Ron

 

[dieseldazzle]

Only one person I know goes by the name of Dazzle. Florida???!!!

Yup we all moved to FLORIDA, Alex

 

[Meep-Meep]

Yup we all moved to FLORIDA, Alex

Well that's news! Don't forget to go to Garlits in a couple of weeks. I was there last year. Also have an old work buddy that lives in Brooksville that I visit on occasion. But most of all be well.

And if you make it to Garlits stop by the Stripmasters booth (right by the gate) and tell Mark and Lyn you are old buddies of mine.

 

[dieseldazzle]

Well that's news! Don't forget to go to Garlits in a couple of weeks. I was there last year. Also have an old work buddy that lives in Brooksville that I visit on occasion. But most of all be well.

And if you make it to Garlits stop by the Stripmasters booth (right by the gate) and tell Mark and Lyn you are old buddies of mine.

Will do. Already plan on going to the show and bringing the Charger. Pops Dart aint ready yet.

 

[MarPar]

Well that's news! Don't forget to go to Garlits in a couple of weeks. I was there last year. Also have an old work buddy that lives in Brooksville that I visit on occasion. But most of all be well.

And if you make it to Garlits stop by the Stripmasters booth (right by the gate) and tell Mark and Lyn you are old buddies of mine.

Stripmasters, eh? :thinker: I may have to go and check that out...oh wait, that's in Daytona! lol

Ya, Alex is THE MAN. he's helped me out get out of jams numerous times...

HERRRRRRMANO!!

 

[cr8crshr]

Meep Meep...Quick question here. You said the shaft bushing in the block was loose and would move is that not correct? If so, and with your home made removal tool removing it, when you replaced with the new one, did you "burnish" the new one per spec in the FSM. This step is often over looked when a re-build is being done. It requires a special tool as well. I have both Miller tools for the removal and install and if need be can get some pics up to help out those who might need it later on. But a great catch none the less. That is one area that I am like a rabid dog about. The slightest offset or feel and I am all over it...cr8crshr/Tuck

 

[Meep-Meep]

Meep Meep...Quick question here. You said the shaft bushing in the block was loose and would move is that not correct? If so, and with your home made removal tool removing it, when you replaced with the new one, did you "burnish" the new one per spec in the FSM. This step is often over looked when a re-build is being done. It requires a special tool as well. I have both Miller tools for the removal and install and if need be can get some pics up to help out those who might need it later on. But a great catch none the less. That is one area that I am like a rabid dog about. The slightest offset or feel and I am all over it...cr8crshr/Tuck

The old bushing was worn badly and I could tell that when I moved the shaft side to side with a big screwdriver. After I put the new bushing in I did check for adequate clearance. There was plenty, if not a bit loose, but it will be fine. I wouldn't mind seeing the Miller tools.

 

[bigmanjbmopar]

You're in cow town right? not too far from me.

Meep Meep...Quick question here. You said the shaft bushing in the block was loose and would move is that not correct? If so, and with your home made removal tool removing it, when you replaced with the new one, did you "burnish" the new one per spec in the FSM. This step is often over looked when a re-build is being done. It requires a special tool as well. I have both Miller tools for the removal and install and if need be can get some pics up to help out those who might need it later on. But a great catch none the less. That is one area that I am like a rabid dog about. The slightest offset or feel and I am all over it...cr8crshr/Tuck