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Sure! I still have the old magazine articles on your car. But some FBBO members may not know if it. Tell us a story.
Four door Hemi
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MJF_
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The Belvedere in Europe is in Finland and it is real hemi car and does exist. I have seen it a year ago.
https://brakedrum.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Z+-++Files/B+-+Body+pics/FMA+Loviisa+June+2017+.+III.jpg
https://brakedrum.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Z+-++Files/B+-+Body+pics/FMA+Loviisa+June+2017+.+III.jpg
I'm working on it, need to get all my facts straight been nearly 30 years since I bought it. And 25 since I sold it.
Runcharger
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I can't recall a Plymouth 4 door Hemi.
monaco66coupe
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there is a 67 Belvedere four door hemi In Phoenix
gtx6970
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monaco66coupe
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The mopar club members in Phoenix know of it.
MJF_
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Real deal? Picture of vin? RH41J7xxxxxx?
monaco66coupe
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I apologize, my Information is old. That car is now in Europe, apparently Finland. Sorry about that. I heard it was ordered and sold new in Europe, and found its way to the U.S, , and then went back. A good friend is trying to help the owner secure parts for it.
It is the car MJF was referring to,, The owner has ties to Arizona, which is how I heard of it as well.
patrick66
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Four-door Coronet HEMI cars - Red, White, Blue, Tan, Green. FIVE total. The Red and White cars sold new from the same dealership in Wichita, Kansas. The Tan car (gold) was sold in Canada, new. The green car sold in Finland, new. And the blue car sold elsewhere in the US, new. ALL were sold new to private parties. NONE were ever "FBI" cars, or cop cars, or anything else.
I've heard of the '67 Belvedere II four door, but have never seen pics of it. I'd heard it, too, sold new in Finland, made its way to the US several years ago, and then recently, back to Finland.
I've heard of the '67 Belvedere II four door, but have never seen pics of it. I'd heard it, too, sold new in Finland, made its way to the US several years ago, and then recently, back to Finland.
monaco66coupe
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You may find this story quite Interesting to say the least, and take it for what it's worth:
I recently drove to matteson(Chicago area) Illinois to purchase a 2007 Ram 2500 4wd with a buyer blade from an 80 year old retired Police officer, with 51 years of service with various city departments from 1967 or so,Including chief.. he was able to name every single police car type through all those years that he either patrolled with, or arranged to purchase for the respective departments through all those years. He also pushed snow as a business, which is why he had the Ram. But, he moved up to a 2014 warlock, and retired the 2007.
Anyway, he was fondly remembering the 69 Polara 440 HP cars, and confirmed they would exceed 140MPH.
But the funniest story he told was in 1967 the department ordered five Coronet police cars.
two 318 cars, two 383 HP cars, and believe it or not, they opened the hood on number 5, and it was a 426 Hemi. Back then, there was no harrah for owning one, as you could order a new coronet with one. So the city accountant called Chrysler and said they didn't order that, plus the extra cost was not properly budgeted.
Chrysler said they did order it, and too late, they won't take it back. They went round and round, to no avail.
so they used the Hemi coronet on the street for several years until the 69 440 Polara's showed up. The coronet then went to auction, and disappeared.
He added the guys always fought over who would drive it, and it went through tires look you wouldn't believe.
He is a very well known ex cop in the area, and very credible. Plus he was in 82nd airborne in Vietnam 65-66, and was wounded. So The odds of it occuring I believe is very likely. Very funny guy for an old Duffer!
I recently drove to matteson(Chicago area) Illinois to purchase a 2007 Ram 2500 4wd with a buyer blade from an 80 year old retired Police officer, with 51 years of service with various city departments from 1967 or so,Including chief.. he was able to name every single police car type through all those years that he either patrolled with, or arranged to purchase for the respective departments through all those years. He also pushed snow as a business, which is why he had the Ram. But, he moved up to a 2014 warlock, and retired the 2007.
Anyway, he was fondly remembering the 69 Polara 440 HP cars, and confirmed they would exceed 140MPH.
But the funniest story he told was in 1967 the department ordered five Coronet police cars.
two 318 cars, two 383 HP cars, and believe it or not, they opened the hood on number 5, and it was a 426 Hemi. Back then, there was no harrah for owning one, as you could order a new coronet with one. So the city accountant called Chrysler and said they didn't order that, plus the extra cost was not properly budgeted.
Chrysler said they did order it, and too late, they won't take it back. They went round and round, to no avail.
so they used the Hemi coronet on the street for several years until the 69 440 Polara's showed up. The coronet then went to auction, and disappeared.
He added the guys always fought over who would drive it, and it went through tires look you wouldn't believe.
He is a very well known ex cop in the area, and very credible. Plus he was in 82nd airborne in Vietnam 65-66, and was wounded. So The odds of it occuring I believe is very likely. Very funny guy for an old Duffer!
patrick66
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Since the five '66 Coronet HEMI cars are well-documented, and no '67 Coronet four-door Hemi cars are known to have been built, I respectfully claim that Hemi cop car as an "urban legend" of sorts. No known record of ANY 1967 WE, WT, or WK43 '67 Hemi car built to cop specs.
monaco66coupe
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definitely Plymouth. I was told plymouths were shipped to Sweden, and assembled there for sale, and assembled with much greater care than the average auto worker in the U.S. back then.
monaco66coupe
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definitely Plymouth. I was told plymouths were shipped to Sweden, and assembled there for sale, and assembled with much greater care than the average auto worker in the U.S. back then.
monaco66coupe
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51 years as a cop is pretty legitimate. combat Veteran, and well known Chief of police in various locations. and how many years did mopar guys poo poo four door Hemi cars, "no records exist" at that time at least. amazing that the view "if it isn't documented, it didn't happen"still persists.No way to prove it, but who cares,,,
Chrysler never put a 392 Hemi in a 58 Plymouth either, but there is one. in the Petty collection in Phoenix.
Chrysler never put a 392 Hemi in a 58 Plymouth either, but there is one. in the Petty collection in Phoenix.
monaco66coupe
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I would like to reiterate from above, the Police dept also said" we did not order this car"
but never the less there it sat. Mistakes can be made, and were made many times by all the manufacturers. It was just an Interesting story from a very alert and sharp former police officer.
patrick66
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B-body cars were indeed sold in Sweden, Finland, the Netherlands, among other nations. B-body cars went as complete cars, ready-to-sell off the ship, not as CKD kits. Any mods were done in-country before dealer delivery. My '67 Belvedere I wagon, sold new in Belgium, is a perfect example. It, and two others, were sold to a dealer in Belgium, who converted all three to funeral cars. All were 225/3-speed cars, built identically. XHD Hemi torsion bars and leaf springs, 11" drum brakes, HD heater, and clock, along with the export 200 km/h speedo. No radio. Built in Michigan, not overseas.
Of the three, I ended up with one, which is still in OK, but now with a 360 auto. One is still in Belgium, and the third went to a funeral home in Sweden, where the car is still, presumably.
Of the three, I ended up with one, which is still in OK, but now with a 360 auto. One is still in Belgium, and the third went to a funeral home in Sweden, where the car is still, presumably.
MJF_
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There was 2 hemi cars imported to Finland as new. 67 4 door Belvedere and 67 GTX. No others. Both still exist, GTX is restored in late 90s. Belvedere has always been in Finland, owner (finnish) lives part of the years in Arizona.
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