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Gigi rides again - with some issues

subforry

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Hi all,

After a long time and many upgrades, I have final got to take my '66 Charger for a long and highway shake down.

After many anxious miles on the freeway with the temp gauge about 1/8" from too hot, I pulled off, ready to burn my finger tips opening the hood. But nothing. It was not hot. I think the temp sender has been the wrong one from day one or I put the wrong one in there. What is the proper temp sender for a 440 with factory temp gauge? My wiring connector is the slip over thread type.

Next, the idle speed screw is in too far and it's too far off the idle circuit - I'm getting vacuum on the ported hookup. If I back it out, the idle drop way too low, and dies. The mixture screw have some effect so I think the idle circuit is working. Timing is by ear where is runs the fastest and smoothest. It's a '78 440, AVS2 800, Edelbrock heads and intake. I think this was not a problem before new heads and intake. The EGR port is connected to a valve cover breather, no PCV. The brake port (back of carb) is blocked, the brake booster is connected to the manifold.

Finally, I just learned that 440 cast cranks are externally balanced. In the freeway, the car has a rhythmic drone that rises and falls. The faster I driver the faster the drone rises and falls. If I let off the gas, the drone stops. I have the drive shaft rebuilt and balanced. Does this sound like an unbalanced engine? I think my crank damper is from the original 361 engine and maybe not from the '78 440. See picture.

Thanks.

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Cast cranks are external balanced. So if your motor is in fact a cast crank and thats the balancer it will vibrate. Plus you also most likely have the wrong converter. Can you say vibrate?
 
Cast cranks are external balanced. So if your motor is in fact a cast crank and thats the balancer it will vibrate. Plus you also most likely have the wrong converter. Can you say vibrate?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if it is a cast crank with that balancer, and possibly the wrong torque converter, you would know it! At highway speed it will vibrate.
 
Definitely a steel crank balancer. If you also used your 361 torque converter, it is not balanced for the cast crankshaft. Note that a later converter meant for a cast crankshaft will not work with your small input shaft 1966 727, either. Continued imbalance will be detrimental to your engine.
 
RE: vibration/droning noise, I read this page and lengthy post on balancing. Harmonic Dampers 440 Source.com I have no idea what the converter came from, this is all PO stupidity. I guess a first, and kind of easy, step is get the correct damper or I see that 440 source has a counter weight that can be added - maybe.
Thanks.
 
RE: vibration/droning noise, I read this page and lengthy post on balancing. Harmonic Dampers 440 Source.com I have no idea what the converter came from, this is all PO stupidity. I guess a first, and kind of easy, step is get the correct damper or I see that 440 source has a counter weight that can be added - maybe.
Thanks.
Do you know for sure that the crank is cast? Just because the block is a 78 casting does not mean the crank is cast. Someone may of built it with a forged crank. You need to verify the crank and that should be the first thing to know. Second step would be to identify the torque converter. You already know the harmonic balancer is for a forged crank.
 
I'm looking at the temp issues on a 69 B body right now. As best I could find the "correct" temp sensor would be TS17. I tried another one that was listed and it barely moved the needle. IIRC the resistance was higher than TS17.
TS17 seems to read about mid scale at 200 degree looking at the engine sender in the pump housing via an inferred gun check.
 
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