GTX hood paint treatment texture question

[Lineman]

Is ths the right texture for the black on the GTX hood? I saw a roadrunner yesterday and that paint was really a rough surface .

It's a 69 if that makes a difference?

Thanks

 

[33 IMP]

Organisol is what the factory used, and it can be a bitch to duplicate. It does have a texture.
I believe yours night be a bit too smooth. But I sure can't tell for sure.
Use the search feature here for "organisol".and you will see lots of threads on it.
(My guess is "really rough" isn't right either)
Real organisol hasn't been available for almost ten years.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

The green car is to smooth & to shiny... As 33 IMP posted organisol is textured and semi-flat

 

[4mulas]

Organosol from day one,

I still have an unused pint of PPG DDL which is the PPG version of the original, which is also no longer, made to duplicate this. Had it on my road runner. It was perfect but hard to keep dust free and clean.

 

[Runcharger]

The blue car is right IMO. That original organisol was tricky to paint and the texture depended on how close you were spraying and and how thick you laid it on. It's one of those deals where you could probably pull 5 of them off the assembly line and they had 5 different finishes. Also note the original formula had light metallic in it as shown on the blue Runner.

 

[Black_Sheep]

The blue car is right IMO. That original organisol was tricky to paint and the texture depended on how close you were spraying and and how thick you laid it on. It's one of those deals where you could probably pull 5 of them off the assembly line and they had 5 different finishes. Also note the original formula had light metallic in it as shown on the blue Runner.

Actually the light metallic is (was) aluminum oxide, the same thing that is used in wet or dry sandpaper. That and the suede additive is what gives Organisol it’s texture…

 

[33 IMP]

Agreed. The blue car looks right.
There is a thread where someone posted their experiment to duplicate organisol.
Final result looked great.
Organisol is a bi#@h to keep clean. DONT let any wax get near it.

 

[Black_Sheep]

Agreed. The blue car looks right.
There is a thread where someone posted their experiment to duplicate organisol.
Final result looked great.

I believe that was Rich H.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

Cody's Organisol Paint Formula in Body Shop

 

[33 IMP]

I believe that was Rich H.

Yep, that's the one!

 

[dan juhasz]

Darrin Stanke from the A12 forum sells a kit to mimic the original finish for the A12 hoods. I haven’t tried it personally but perhaps reach out to him and get some info.

 

[Lineman]

Thanks for the replies!! Yeah, so that DDL 9355 someone gave me is not correct? I had a body shop that I like do the paint work and I thought he did the DDL 9355 because that is what someone gave me.. So what is the thought here, is this the driver solution now? Or should I try to get it closer?

Thanks for the help.

 

[1 Wild R/T]

Thanks for the replies!! Yeah, so that DDL 9355 someone gave me is not correct? I had a body shop that I like do the paint work and I thought he did the DDL 9355 because that is what someone gave me.. So what is the thought here, is this the driver solution now? Or should I try to get it closer?

Thanks for the help.

Your body shop didn't use your DDL-9355, they either didn't trust an old can of lacquer or the had another project in mind for it & didn't think you would know the difference.... As far as what to do? The hood is gonna be easier to take care of with the current finish & lots of people are happy with that sort of finish... Personally I think Mopar's organisol is an important part of making these cars look right so U would have to respray it....

 

[topside]

I remember the hood treatments from when the cars were new - dealer lots and 2 buddies' cars - sheen was dead flat, and if you got any wax on it, good luck getting it off. I don't recall any metallic but definitely a roughness - something like sandpaper, like the suede interior finish - but adding the alum oxide could promote texture.
The OP could try a flat clear over the black to knock down the gloss; if shooting lacquer, shoot it "dry" and that will add some texture (think overspray).

 

[Lineman]

Thanks, this car is a original "looking" but still somewhat original GTX in a lot of ways albeit being a driver. I have taken a few liberties for drive-ability but for the money and effort I think I can be closer? I appreciate the help. I will have to swing by the body shop.

 

[69_A12_6BBL]

Is ths the right texture for the black on the GTX hood? I saw a roadrunner yesterday and that paint was really a rough surface .

It's a 69 if that makes a difference?

Thanks

Is ths the right texture for the black on the GTX hood? I saw a roadrunner yesterday and that paint was really a rough surface .

It's a 69 if that makes a difference?

Thanks

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Original un-repainted A12 Hood
Typically they'll describe its texture as "Enough to cause a shop towel or bath cloth to Drag or catch on the surface but NOT enough to pull fibers from said cloth", I have seen some of the V21 type painted hoods/stripes on UNRESTORED cars that are nearly just a flat black with nearly NO Texture. That may be a different paint type than the A12 hood type

 

[Lineman]

Thanks to everyone on this tread.. I spoke with the body man the other day and apparently he didn't use the DDL-9355, or even try to get it.. But he called the paint supply guy while I was there and it seems the DDL-9355 is now unavailable? Or just maybe in the communist sate of Maryland? Either way sounds like there is a replacement and the shop is going to get some of that paint and he will spray some of it and see what that looks like.

I will update with a pick and exactly what this replacement is when I get it.

Thanks again..

 

[RJ Squirrel]

I used SPI black epoxy for mine and it looks just like your picture, low gloss but no texture. I have been reading about different spray techniques using U-POL Raptor, thin it, spray it with HVLP and a big tip, hold gun farther away for more texture, etc.
I plan to play around with some samples when I have some time this winter.

 

[1000j]

sprayed organisol on my Roadrunner 20yrs ago when it was a a available but for the Cuda I recently finished I had to use SC804, a BASF product, looks good and has a slight texture

 

[69_A12_6BBL]

Thanks to everyone on this tread.. I spoke with the body man the other day and apparently he didn't use the DDL-9355, or even try to get it.. But he called the paint supply guy while I was there and it seems the DDL-9355 is now unavailable? Or just maybe in the communist sate of Maryland? Either way sounds like there is a replacement and the shop is going to get some of that paint and he will spray some of it and see what that looks like.

I will update with a pick and exactly what this replacement is when I get it.

Thanks again..

In my limited shop experience, closest thing Ive seen on resto cars will be that SEM Hot Rod black. Comes with Catalyst, Texture & hardner. If ya go that route, (quoting my paint guy) try to NOT use over a 25 foot hose, and be VERY careful of any water drippage from "The Cheap Amazon" paint guns. If ya use one. He actually used a $50 Amazon gun on this guys $220,000 Super Bee clone. And sure enough? Damn paint gun blew out 3 O-Rings! And dripped water all over the place. (Probably why I stick with wiring & carburetors..lol)