How to deal with a car with "no paperwork" as in "no title".

[benersen]

I was looking at the "B Body Mopars For Sale" and I see one states "no paperwork" as is "no title". How would one be able to get a title or a rebuildable title? is this just a parts car? I would hate to buy a car do work and find out I can not drive it. Is there a tread already about this topic so I can read up on it? Thanks in advance, Bill

 

[moparsteve636]

A lot of it depends on what state you're in as for as getting paper work on a vehicle! ie lost or no title. Some only require a notarized bill of sale, some a state insp. some they won't issue new paper work so it ends up being a parts car!

 

[benersen]

A lot of it depends on what state you're in as for as getting paper work on a vehicle! ie lost or no title. Some only require a notarized bill of sale, some a state insp. some they won't issue new paper work so it ends up being a parts car!

I am from NY and based on what I read it might be tough without proper paperwork. Not sure if a Bill of Sale will be good enough.
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either the title certificate or transferable registration that was transferred to you from the previous owner

http://dmv.ny.gov/registration/register-out-state-vehicle
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has anyone been through this process?

 

[hunt2elk]

Maybe call your local DMV and find out for certain what is involved.

 

[747mopar]

It's possible but sometimes not worth it, some states only sell via bill of sale but most will give you hell. I've bought a car without a title and was able to get a court ordered title but there's a bunch of "if's" and hoola hoops to jump threw. Do your homework, call the state DMV headquarters (most clerks don't know anything about these issues) and talk to the Trooper inspection officers.

 

[96Formula6sp]

Im working on this for our lemons car. GA does not issue titles to anything older than 25 years. As I am in South Carolina I will be doing the paper work plus a GA bill of sale to get a title to it. Buddy had to do this when he bought his 73 F150 in GA. Its a pain in the butt and he had to do 4-5 trips to get it done. But he now has a SC title.

 

[spinach]

Look at Vermont DMV website. They will register a car for you for a fee. If you have a registration or "tag" with a bill of sale most states will issue a title. There is also an individual out of New York who will sell you a complete registration package with tag and bill of sale with your vin #. I believe his name is John Parkinson...He accepts cash or money orders only. If you google him be prepared for an interesting personal history. Good luck.

 

[super-bee_ski]

A lot of it depends on what state you're in as for as getting paper work on a vehicle! ie lost or no title. Some only require a notarized bill of sale, some a state insp. some they won't issue new paper work so it ends up being a parts car!

As moparsteve636 states:
In California, I had no title for the 63 Polara
I wrote what is essentially an affidavit as the CA DMV requested and had my Title.
Told them I'm purchasing from owner and owner states the Title is lost.

It "shouldn't" be difficult.
1. If car has not been registered in 15 years and original owner has lost said Title, there has to be a way to Re-Title

Good luck!

 

[Bruzilla]

I love whenever someone comes on here and asks a question about this subject and folks start telling him/her what the laws are in their state, which is technically accurate but utterly useless information.

Call your local DMV office, ask to speak to a manager, and ask them what you need to do. They'll be glad to tell you what your options are.

 

[super-bee_ski]

Yeah,
You are so correct Bru!

LOL

"We" do that...and why?
Perhaps to show the individual that there "MAY" be a remedy or solution?

Too funny!
Great observation!

 

[BeatersRus]

just run the vin,make sure it isnt stolen.
you can do this thru a friendly state trooper.

then,just make a bill of sale,and turn it in.
this is Assuming that the car is Older than 1972,
as thats the cutoff year in NY for cars to have reggies,
then they went to titles.
if its 72 or up,do the Vermont trick.

this john guy,i tried looking him up,do you have a direct link??
i wouldnt personally go thru Anyone in ny for title help,this has Never worked out for me.

 

[patrick66]

I was looking at the "B Body Mopars For Sale" and I see one states "no paperwork" as is "no title". How would one be able to get a title or a rebuildable title? is this just a parts car? I would hate to buy a car do work and find out I can not drive it. Is there a tread already about this topic so I can read up on it? Thanks in advance, Bill

NY doesn't require a title, IIRC. In my state (OK), I'd run away from a "no-title" car, unless it came from a "no-title" state AND had a current registration reflecting the fact it came from that state. My state does NOT recognize the so-called "title companies" like Broadway, and will not accept their alleged documentation.

Like stated above, you need to contact YOUR state DMV or equivalent, and not a bunch of us on a car site. They'll give you the no-**** information you need.

 

[mosquito13]

I have used a title serice for motorcycles before . works just slow... pulled this from Old Cars 101
The service of a title company
Title companies expect owners to make sure the car is not stolen or is not already titled, and that the owner has investigated his or her state’s policy on transferring an out-of-state registration to a title.
If a vehicle is not listed as stolen, doesn’t have an existing title on record and it’s older than 1995, a title company can usually help register the vehicle.
Title companies require the owner to complete paperwork verifying a car’s proof of operation, its serial number, etc. (this paperwork is accessible on most title companies’ web sites). To prove that a vehicle is operable, owners can contact a police officer, state inspection agency or a licensed repair facility near their home to complete the necessary paperwork required by the state that will issue the registration.
With the paperwork completed, the title company then applies for registration for the owner through one of the aforementioned states, which runs the VIN, and if clear, registration in that state is issued. The owner can then use the registration to title or re-register the car in their state.
For example, “You are going to get a registration in your name in Maine, then it will be registered in Maine,” Andrews said. “Maine allows you to register your car in Maine, even if you don’t live there. You take [the registration] to your DMV and transfer it from Maine to your state. Your state, being a title state, will issue a title from the registration.”
- See more at: http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/how-to-title-your-ride#sthash.mX7hBjzz.dpuf

 

[texas69bee]

I just got done doing this here in Texas. The car I bought was titled in her dead husbands name. In order for me to purchase this, we wrote up a bill of sale. I then had to take out a bonded title. The vehicle had not been registered in over ten years so it was no longer in the system. An officer came and inspected the vehicle just to make sure it is what was described on the title. Because it wasn't road ready, insurance was not needed. here is a quick link for your answer in NY. http://dmvanswers.com/search/New-York/Bonded-Title

 

[Seventy]

A friend of mine is from New York and couldnt register his car, so I registered it in RI for him (under my business name) and then sold it to him on paper, with the previous reg he was able to register the car...

 

[BeatersRus]

im not trying to say avoid the whole bonded thingy..
but its pretty much a waste of your time and efforts when its so simple to just do it the way i outlined above...and ive been doing cars since i was 22-23....
take 5 mins to write up a bill of sale...go turn it in..get a title back....

Seventy also has another way,using diff state.
i also know of the motorcycle title setup,a friend uses that all the time.
wasnt sure cars would go thru as easy as a bike tho.

 

[Kern Dog]

I know a guy that knows a guy... He can do almost anything for $100 cash.

 

[benersen]

Thank you guys for all the helpful information. I will call my DMV in NY and see what they say. Plus my Brother-In law is a NY state trooper so I can always call in the vin. On a side note I would love to get a title for all of these Hummer H1's the Government is auctioning off. (http://www.ironplanet.com/Government+Surplus?kwtag=categorycarousel) But that is another story