I'm negoitiating on a real Factory Race car and have some ?'s

[SUPERSTOCKRACER]

I'm in negoitiating stages with the seller on a real factory mopar race car.
It has been a racecar all its life.
Factory seats gone, and needs a restoration to make it up to my standards.
Question is do you restore it to factory specs or leave it the way it is with lettering,interior, etc.
I will need to clean it up and make some changes to give it that racecar/showcar look and appeal. I always look at the big longterm picture. Which way will it bring more money?

 

[mattsmopars]

I think if it is a well know race car or a race car with a good amount of researchable history I would leave it that way.
If it were more of a local race car with not alot of history I think A factory resto would be the way to go. I guess it really comes down to personal choice. What year car are you talking? Best of luck with it by the way.
Matt

 

[SUPERSTOCKRACER]

I think if it is a well know race car or a race car with a good amount of researchable history I would leave it that way.
If it were more of a local race car with not alot of history I think A factory resto would be the way to go. I guess it really comes down to personal choice. What year car are you talking? Best of luck with it by the way.
Matt

65 super stock
i need to get more details. also it must have the fender tag,door vin and package tray numbers matching.

 

[mattsmopars]

Me and a good friend of mine owned a real 1965 super stock coronet for a while. I should have bought his half out as I kick myself everday for selling that car.
It two had been raced since new, and was tubbed through the years, but still had all the important stuff like the light weight doors, fenders, glass,interior.
It also had the original fender tag, vin number, and the SO stramping on the package tray. I think it was about two years ago we sold the car. A collector in Kansas that also has a 65 super stock plymouth bought it. As much as it breaks my heart I will attach a picture of the car the day we bought it.
Matt

 

[Leduc'sMopars]

Kind of an unrelated story but a guy up north of me had bought a factory super stock 65 coronet. The previous owner kept the fender tag even though the car had already been titled in the new owners name, the previous owner wanted some stupid amount of cash for just the tag, like 15k or something like that. The new owner got the police involved and the police went to the previous owner, handed him the cash then cuffed him. The real kicker is that they destroyed the fender tag because it was considered evidence!

 

[696pack]

I think if it is a well know race car or a race car with a good amount of researchable history I would leave it that way.
If it were more of a local race car with not alot of history I think A factory resto would be the way to go. I guess it really comes down to personal choice. What year car are you talking? Best of luck with it by the way.
Matt

I agree with the above.

Regarding the fender tag I would not let that stop me. As you likely know Darrell Davis has the listing by V.I.N. of these 1965 A990 cars so there is little chance someone could pull off a fake. I would contact him with the info on the car as there are many other special telltale signs to identify a "real" one.

 

[moparpoor]

It depends on the pedigree of the race history! The original paint scheme will dictate the value some. Well restored 65 light weight is bad *** anyway. A well restored high impact gold leaf letter job,custom paint scheme,and period correct race parts is even better!!! My personal feelings are always restore to its greatest glory days!! Unfortunately that isn't always the biggest return on investment. Might this be a burgundy and gold 65???

 

[moparmarkk]

Hi Chris,good luck on the deal,looking for some pics if its a done deal,mark

 

[RamNBee]

Opinions will vary, but I agree that the history of the car will dictate what should be done. If selling it at some point is in your future plans, a known car will bring more restored to "Glory Days" ie, Ed Miller's 65 Plymouth recently in MoPar Muscle. The history makes it unique and more desirable/valuable to some collectors. A lesser known or unknown car will more likely to bring more restored to factory specs from what I have observed.

 

[super-bee_ski]

Keep it as "Raced" condition.

 

[Budnicks]

very subjective

:iamwithstupid: SSR I got to say "it really depends on it's nostalgia look or it's actual racing history", was it an actual Chrysler factory supported/built & raced car {very few actual "real factory built race cars" were ever made/sold/given to very select teams &/or raced}, with documents & history ??, was it one of a very few private owners/builders/racers, that got in on the factory race car deal ??, or if it was owned by a famous/infamous racing team/person/shop ??, was the car campaigned/raced just locally/regionally or nation wide ??, or was it an actual winning or record holding factory built race car ??... IMHO it doesn't always make it worth more money/value, to completely restore them either, maybe clean up some areas, get as much of the original seat/parts etc., they're only original once, it's mostly just more of a personal preference on whether to restore or not, some "as-raced cars", with the actual true/old "as-raced patina" still there, will sometimes bring more as a true "survivor as-raced nostalgic race car" {barn find} for value/money or even resale value, than just another fully restored nostalgic race car, especially if it was a famous/infamous car or owner/driver/team/shop... Good Luck my $0.02 cents anyway

 

[383man]

I guess to me it would depend on who the racer that owned it was. Is it big time name racer or a local racer. And also if you plan to sell it later or do you plan to make it a keeper. Who's car was it if you dont mind me asking or is it something you dont want to say yet until you make the deal ? Ron

 

[SUPERSTOCKRACER]

I guess to me it would depend on who the racer that owned it was. Is it big time name racer or a local racer. And also if you plan to sell it later or do you plan to make it a keeper. Who's car was it if you dont mind me asking or is it something you dont want to say yet until you make the deal ? Ron

cant say anything yet. i'm trying to figure a few things out on it. theres another car that i just cant get my mind off of.
for what its going to cost to ressurect this one, theres one already done to #1 show quality all done and i think its more recognized but quite a few dollars more but all the work is done and what the done one costs the one that needs restoring will cost about the same when done.

 

[Meep-Meep]

If the car has some cool history, and looks cool as hell sitting there with all the vintage lettering and stickers, I'd restore as it is. How many body in white cars do we need anyway? But there is only one like the one you found.

 

[tallhair]

Hi Chris,good luck on the deal,looking for some pics if its a done deal,mark

I'm with Mark! Good luck on the deal then show some pics and let the the knowledgeable give you some advice in regard to price, resto or preserve it .. but let your heart be your guide in the end.

 

[mattsmopars]

I think the Gene Snow 65 coronet super stock recently sold on eBay for the opening bid of $85,000. So to be honest with these cars you can by a finished car cheaper than restoring one after the purchase price. Seems like I also remember the Thunder II coronet for sale, I think it was in Canada. Best of luck on it. Matt

 

[arizona satellite]

OMHO I say you should build it to what ever calls out to you! I worked for a local Plymouth dealer here in phoenix in the mid 90's and we has both a 65 A990 Belvedere as well as a 68 HEMI cuda that belonged to DeFrank at one time. the Cuda was more up to date but the belvedere was set up much more period correct and I for one LOVED the sense of "history" when we brought the 65 out. just say'n

 

[Supershafts]

I have a friend with a REAL A990 car for sale as we speak, and couple other real factory built race cars for sale, up here in NY

 

[SUPERSTOCKRACER]

I have a friend with a REAL A990 car for sale as we speak, and couple other real factory built race cars for sale, up here in NY

who's that you speak of? :happy1:

 

[Supershafts]