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It looks like even the car shows on TV are going green with woke BS!

Ron H said:
She never went to charm school; not that this would do any good with her condition anyway. When I've listened to her I think I'm a worthless old **** geezer to be despised bent on destroying da planet. And wow, if I'm lucky I drive my old ride all of 1200 miles a year. Geez I need a hug...nope don't mean from you, lol...
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I agree that side has a messaging problem. And if she is the face of the future? My optimism just took a hit.
 
Cojohnso1 said:
I understand the sadness of an era coming to an end. But denying the future is just plain stupid. And we have had enough stupid in our direction and leadership. 10-15 years from now? There will be no debate. When lithium is replaced with far better and efficient battery designs. In vehicle technology that are far more efficient, higher performance, lower maintenance, FAR more ecologically sound than internal combustion designs.

I don't fear the future. And I'm not going to mourn the past for the rest of my days? I rechoice in the fact I got to live and experience the transportation revolution. That gave us the vehicles we all adore. Because truthfully? I'm not a big fan of horses. They are big, mean, dirty, expensive and stupid. And the generations to come? I bet say the same thing about our beloved B-bodies.
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You obviously have never been around horses.
 
BLK 68 R/T said:
You obviously have never been around horses.
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Actually I have My sister owed and trained 1/4 horse for show. I rode my share. (Being the oldest and only boy? Guess who got the half broken, young, dumb mean ones?)

Let's just say I was happier on a 1/4 mile drag strip than a 1/4 mile horse.

And not to mention some of the egos in the stables. Wanta be Cowboys. I worked with a young mare named Stacy. She was firery and wasn't that interested in training. Some young stable hand who rode around with a ridiculous silver 6 shooter on his hip that would fall out of his holster at least once a day told me if Stacy misbehaves? Give her a whack with a tree branch. I said. "First of all. Get all this crap off her that's pissing her off? I ride her bareback with a single strap bridal." She will put up with me then. And 2nd? Hit her with a stick? Are you on Crack? She is a 1000 lb athlete. If she was a predator and had half our brain? We'd all be dead right now.
 
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33 IMP said:
That would get me less than half way from one house to the other. How many charging stations are there in the middle of the california desert, 20 miles from the nearest town of 500 residents?
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I honestly don't know, because I don't know which town you're referring to. Tehama for example, is listed with a population of 418 and has 23 charging stations withing a 30 mile radius. Which town did you mean?
 
Photon440 said:
I honestly don't know, because I don't know which town you're referring to. Tehama for example, is listed with a population of 418 and has 23 charging stations withing a 30 mile radius. Which town did you mean?
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Well, the town i was referring to is Ludlow, in the middle of the desert on hwy40, (used to be route 66), but a hundred miles would leave me short by about thirty miles of reaching Ludlow, assuming they have a charge station.
Im sure the aaa guy they send out when i call will be happy to come forty miles out from Barstow to tow me back to charge my car up.
 
I guess it depends where you're coming from to get to Ludlow. Does it really have 500 people in it? It seems almost deserted when looking it up. To the west, Barstow is just over 50 miles away, while the Mojave Dessert Heritage & Cultural Center near Essex is 60 miles in the other direction, the two nearest charging stations that I found. Ludlow has none. For you, I would suggest staying away from home-built 100 mile range cars. :)
 
Those proponents of an all electric car future should be concerned about the government involvement. Electric cars might fail because of government involvement. You can't argue that government programs have a seccussful track record.
It is unfortunate that we do not focus on what is efficient and available today and let the market and technology evolve. Hybrids are efficient and available today, yet the government is telling us it's all electric or the world is destroyed. It's forcing the auto industry to gamble now on all electric while not thinking about any impact on industry or resource availability.
I will whole heartily agree that efficient methods and conservation make sense regardless of the climate change politics, and that is hybrid technology availability is now.
But no.....we have to force a direction of all electric and say that technology needs to step up before it can evolve regardless of the cost or availability of resources.
 
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Thought you guys would get a charge out of old Greta sneaking in here... let’s make a jet electric powered too.. who wants to be the first to fly it?
Compliments of a good friends son who is a air plane mechanic! He shared and I laughed !
 
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Every thing being turned into electric powered is only going to drive up the cost of turning on the lights in your home.
 
I really don’t know what to think about this or how I should. I’m including my age here as matters not what the issue on mind is…it’s CHANGED. I live relatively close to my hometown and 75% of it is different and changing. Old landmarks gone, open spaces gone, new development going on like gangbusters. A lot of people I knew that I liked or loved that were a huge part of my life…are dead. Ya get in my age group…ya see and experience this. It’s more difficult to absorb if one is a sentimental sort, kinda like I am at times. In other words everywhere I look that used to be familiar in my life gone by…gone.

We can take some of the inevitable hard or soft. I try not to let this light up my butt hairs; but have my moods. What’s changed with me is I blow off **** that irritates me sooner than I used to, maybe cuz I see most of my days are behind me. How many of us geezers have gotten addicted to cell phones and laptops when we lived a good stretch just fine without them? So EV? I cherish my old ride, the sound of a V-8, and the chances I have to drive it, maybe 1500 miles in a good year where I live. Now three of the big fossil fuel mfg’s have new board members, by design it appears, taking a stand on going greener. Look all around – change and more of it. Best a luck expecting to keep things how they used to be or blowing a blood vessel over it. I’ll make my slants known to people in office about preserving our hobby and keep it up; but I’ve done this before on other stuff…I don't have a good batting average though.
 
I recently watch both parts of "Cars the Changed the World" and found it very relevant to this conversation. There were so many instances of "that will never happen" and "thats impossible" that occurred from the 1800's when internal combustion became an actual "thing" to more modern times. The shows ended stating that the future of internal combustion vehicles was ending and at some point they would be replaced with something else, probably electric.

As a car guy I definitely don't like it but I realize that the one constant thing in the world is change and that applies to this situation as it does everything else. Yes, I like/love internal combustion vehicles and no I am not in favor of going electric (or something else) but I cannot stop it and I am not sure that I would if I could. I don't believe the reasoning as it relates to fossil fuels or climate change, rather it is about money as it has been from the beginning, but there is no doubt that vehicles have become better, safer and much faster.

The "up side" here is that I seriously doubt that internal combustion vehicles will be gone by the time most of us are gone, so we can continue to enjoy them for the foreseeable future but make no mistake, this is clearly a case of musical chairs where at some point someone is going to be left with archaic relics that they cannot fuel, work on or use but I suspect this is a pretty long way off.
 
What I want to know is how are all of the "Greenies" going to get their electric cars? Or parts for their cars? Or batteries? Tires? Etc. Etc. Etc.
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
Because electric Semis DON'T WORK!!!

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DIESEL POWER, THAT'S HOW!!!
 
Ironbuilt said:
What I want to know is how are all of the "Greenies" going to get their electric cars? Or parts for their cars? Or batteries? Tires? Etc. Etc. Etc.
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION!!!
Because electric Semis DON'T WORK!!!

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DIESEL POWER, THAT'S HOW!!!
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Maybe they can convert those half million ton container ships with diesel power ......to sail?
 
Ironbuilt said:
As long as you don't mind waiting a year for your intercontinental goods to arrive. Remember, they tried that.

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Some things are not time sensitive, you just adjust the delivery schedule to reflect the shipping speed. Other things of course can't go slowly. Perishable food products for example aren't shipped over oceans by diesel either, they get air freighted.
 
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