Jschill24
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I went with these, but I can't tell if I will need adapters...
Amazon product ASIN B0BY1QHJT4
Amazon product ASIN B0BY1QHJT4
LED headlight conversion
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70ChargerRT
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Could you show me the comparison in amperage because even still the Octanes still draw way less than the old halogen lights. Looks like the Octanes are brighter. Maybe why more Watts?
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My comparison goes back to early last year, electrical specs are available on each respective website. The major reason I chose the Holley retro-brights was not for their brightness but rather physical dimenisons, Octane is local for me in SoCal and I actually went to their distributor location store to measure their samples. At that time the Octanes were deeper than the Holleys, which required modifying the mounting buckets to accomodate their deeper depth, whereas the Holleys dropped rite in without any mods. I don't know for sure but perhaps since that time Octane might have come out with a shorter depth product to address this. I wanted to switch to LEDs versus the OE incadescents because I wanted more brightness due to my nightime driving which any LED headlight should provide. Others have modified their OE wiring to relays and have experienced some minor brightness of the OE incadescents, however a major strength of LED headlights is that OE incadescents are sensitive to voltage whereas an LED is not. Regarding brightness U may have seen some of my previous postings as I fabricated some Y connectors so I have (4) high beams or (4) low beams. Another thing I found out with my (4) Holley retrobrights that their light output was brighter and wider than the OE incadescents without being too piercing, I have been on the road for almost (2) years with my install and had no issues with the cops. Note below I did attach a couple photos of my RoadRunner.
Just my $0.02...
70ChargerRT
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Haven’t seen your postings. Those look good and that’s an awesome idea for the 4 low lights. I’ve been running Octane before they came out with the Holley and they dropped right in my buckets. I know with Octane the Amps are still so low you don’t need the relay upgrade. Everything in my car is LED but I’ve got to switch the hood signal lights back. Those are way too bright lol.My comparison goes back to early last year, electrical specs are available on each respective website. The major reason I chose the Holley retro-brights was not for their brightness but rather physical dimenisons, Octane is local for me in SoCal and I actually went to their distributor location store to measure their samples. At that time the Octanes were deeper than the Holleys, which required modifying the mounting buckets to accomodate their deeper depth, whereas the Holleys dropped rite in without any mods. I don't know for sure but perhaps since that time Octane might have come out with a shorter depth product to address this. I wanted to switch to LEDs versus the OE incadescents because I wanted more brightness due to my nightime driving which any LED headlight should provide. Others have modified their OE wiring to relays and have experienced some minor brightness of the OE incadescents, however a major strength of LED headlights is that OE incadescents are sensitive to voltage whereas an LED is not. Regarding brightness U may have seen some of my previous postings as I fabricated some Y connectors so I have (4) high beams or (4) low beams. Another thing I found out with my (4) Holley retrobrights that their light output was brighter and wider than the OE incadescents without being too piercing, I have been on the road for almost (2) years with my install and had no issues with the cops. Note below I did attach a couple photos of my RoadRunner.
Just my $0.02...
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Anyone have issues after installing the Octane or Holley LED's with oncoming traffic flashing you because the LED's are too bright?
Which are brighter - the Octane's or Holley Retros? Either will be an improvement over the OEM halogen, but I'm thinking to go with lower brightness LED.
Which are brighter - the Octane's or Holley Retros? Either will be an improvement over the OEM halogen, but I'm thinking to go with lower brightness LED.
Read my previous post #44, I have been running the Holley retro-brights with (4) low beams for almost (2) years no hassle from the cops. Keep in mind LEDs are very different from the OE incadscents as their light output is brighter but more dispersed...
Just my $0.02....
I have two cars converted to Holley retro brights. No problems so far. Lights are brighter but the reason I switched is the current load on the stock wiring harness is alot less. Getting ready to convert another one soon.
Had my Holley's for over a year and no flashing lights by opposite traffic or getting pulled over. I have a high and low set on each side. I will say that the low beams are not that huge of an improvement from Halogens, but the high beams are like the the high beams on my 14 explorer. Just lights up everything. I had them aligned by a local shop as well.
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70ChargerRT
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I ain’t trying to sound like a Dick but anyone paying $800 for a set of lights, Holley has “Gotcha”, when you can get a set of Octanes for $200. I could see why Sinitro converted to a 4 low beam light. On low beam only 2 lights together are a measly 4,000 lmn. Mine are 6,000 lmn on low total and I still think they are too dim but man you put all 4 lights on bright “16,000 lumens” and it’s bright. Your lights on high are the same strength as my lights on low as far as per headlight goes. Yes a Holley 30w bulb is going to burn less amps than my 40w bulbs but in total when all 4 headlights are on it’s only around a 3 amp difference.
70ChargerRT
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Octanes are way brighter with their 40w bulbs. Depending on your charging system with the headlights on high you’re going use up around 13 amps with a set of Octane 40w bulbs. With the Holley 30w bulbs it’s around 10 amps total. Holley and Octane both have a weaker set of bulbs if you want to go that route but why in the hell pay $800 for a set of Holleys? In the end they’re both made in China lol. And no trouble at all installing my octanes, they were a plug and play.
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Did not pay full price and I would not have dropped that much I agree. I got them open box on the bay for about half of normal price. No worries, I agree they are expensive.
70ChargerRT
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Awesome deal buddy. Always looking for one, “if it’s worth it”.
This thread needs some clarifications..
1. The Holley retro-brights were introduced >2 years ago, at that time there was little competition.
2. Regarding Octane before I bought the Holleys, I visited their store looking for LED headlights. At that time the only 5.75" LEDs that was available, had a strange front lens and extended rear end that forced mounting into a B body major surgery for the headlight bucket.
3. Holley retro-brights are available @ far below their stated retail price, but one has to search and negotiate this.
4. Regarding Octane, now they do carry some 5.75" LED headlights that has a shallow depth but its availability followed the introduction of the Holleys by more than a year.
5. A close comparison of the Octane LEDs to the Holley retro-brights explains the respective cost differences. The Octane have a thin metal outer housing whereas the Holleys have an outer, extruded aluminum heat sink. This makes a big difference in cooling efficiency but at a higher material cost.
Conclusions.
As I posted previously the introduction of the Holley retro-brights emphasizing LEDs headlights forced the competition to upgrade their products to having a more OE appearing lens and short depth, following the lead behind Holley. The positive thing is now the consumer has a wider choice of available, compatible products. In the end, LED headlights are a great update for our vintage Mopars and don't require modifying the OE wiring due to their lower current draw. Now available @ wider price range.
Just my $0.02....
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70ChargerRT
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Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and pointing out the positives with holleys but I bought Octanes 6-7 years ago and it was a plug and play with no surgery and there is/was quiet a few posts on different forums on the octanes back then being a plug and play and I’m pretty positive we have identical headlights buckets but you are correct. They didn’t have the retro style lens back then, pic posted of what they had. The base is thin metal vs the Holley cast aluminum base which is supposed to help cool the headlights?? lol? Morimoto makes Holleys, they do have a 2 year warranty but at the end of the day they are still made in China and there’s a $600 price point difference unless you can get lucky and get some good deals on the them. I’f people want Holley that’s their choice. I just wanted to point out the amps also incase someone had a factory style charging system and again they both offer bulbs with less watts.This thread needs some clarifications..
1. The Holley retro-brights were introduced >2 years ago, at that time there was little competition.
2. Regarding Octane before I bought the Holleys, I visited their store looking for LED headlights. At that time the only 5.75" LEDs that was available, had a strange front lens and extended rear end that forced mounting into a B body major surgery for the headlight bucket.
3. Holley retro-brights are available @ far below their stated retail price, but one has to search and negotiate this.
4. Regarding Octane, now they do carry some 5.75" LED headlights that has a shallow depth but its availability followed the introduction of the Holleys by more than a year.
5. A close comparison of the Octane LEDs to the Holley retro-brights explains the respective cost differences. The Octane have a thin metal outer housing whereas the Holleys have an outer, extruded aluminum heat sink. This makes a big difference in cooling efficiency but at a higher material cost.
Conclusions.
As I posted previously the introduction of the Holley retro-brights emphasizing LEDs headlights forced the competition to upgrade their products to having a more OE appearing lens and short depth, following the lead behind Holley. The positive thing is now the consumer has a wider choice of available, compatible products. In the end, LED headlights are a great update for our vintage Mopars and don't require modifying the OE wiring due to their lower current draw. Now available @ wider price range.
Just my $0.02....
Since I live close by to Octane (2) weeks ago I went back in because I wanted buy some LED taillights, he had a great selection and low prices. After deciding and buying the taillights the conversation shifted to LED headlights, I asked what he carried in 5.75" note I made no mention of my Holley retro-brights or previous visit. Next he did show me some nice units but then mentioned that he had an inventory of B stock returned LED headlights at reduced, clearance prices, I did go back in the stockroom and he had quite an assortment. But when I mentioned my RoadRunner needed (4) he had a problem of finding (4) matched units, I didn't press him on price but apparently they get alot of returns and the boxes are open so the stock can not be sold as brand new. No doubt like other automotive products there are alternatives, (2) years ago I got a jumbo discount(almost 50%) when I purchased the Holleys but one thing I like about the Holleys is their extended warranty so if in the future I do need an exact replacement it should be available at many, different places.
Just my $0.02...
70ChargerRT
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That’s awesome man, I can never get those deals! I still plan on doing your 4 lights on low conversion. That’s a good set up.Since I live close by to Octane (2) weeks ago I went back in because I wanted buy some LED taillights, he had a great selection and low prices. After deciding and buying the taillights the conversation shifted to LED headlights, I asked what he carried in 5.75" note I made no mention of my Holley retro-brights or previous visit. Next he did show me some nice units but then mentioned that he had an inventory of B stock returned LED headlights at reduced, clearance prices, I did go back in the stockroom and he had quite an assortment. But when I mentioned my RoadRunner needed (4) he had a problem of finding (4) matched units, I didn't press him on price but apparently they get alot of returns and the boxes are open so the stock can not be sold as brand new. No doubt like other automotive products there are alternatives, (2) years ago I got a jumbo discount(almost 50%) when I purchased the Holleys but one thing I like about the Holleys is their extended warranty so if in the future I do need an exact replacement it should be available at many, different places.
Just my $0.02...
bc3j
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I used crackedbacks wiring harness. Excellent workmanship. Used lighting provided by Daniel Stern lighting. H4 and H1 bulbs. Excellent lighting with no dimming at idle.
For me, LEDs in reflector housings and I couldn’t align the headlights. Too much of a scattered beam pattern.
For me, LEDs in reflector housings and I couldn’t align the headlights. Too much of a scattered beam pattern.
Are the H4 and H1 halogen? Or LED's with different housings?
bc3j
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Yes, the bulbs are halogen. They’re Tungsram +120 bulbs. I bought them from Daniel Stern lighting along with the Kioto reflector housings that were recommended.
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