lifter vally pan for a 383

[brianhouchins]

Has anyone ever bought this kit from Jegs? If so is it any problems with it? JEGS Performance Products 210500 Intake Manifold Gaskets

 

[lewtot184]

if you use the paper gaskets they add .060" to each side of the intake/head mating surface; which means the intake won't bolt up unless the manifold or heads are milled to compensate for the extra thickness. sometimes the papers are a hoop not worth jumping thru, unless you know for sure you have intake sealing problems.

 

[WP29440SE]

the factory didnt use gaskets, just the pan

 

[mightymopar]

the factory didnt use gaskets, just the pan

I guess I did not know that. Just starting rebuild on a 68 383. Thanks for the unexpected schooling.. Dave

 

[monaco66coupe]

napa stores sell them as well.

 

[A383Wing]

napa stores sell them as well.

so does Schucks...and a lot cheaper

 

[WP29440SE]

napa stores sell them as well.

they are readily available

summit
jegs
rock auto
advance auto
oriellys
auto zone
.....

 

[tallhair]

Never had a stock motor, intake, and heads have a problem seating with just the metal gasket .. but you do need the steel valley pan hold downs for each end and it's not a bad idea to put small dab of silicone in the corners where the hold downs don't quite get to.

 

[Garys1969RR]

I have re used the valley pan many times. I just put a thin layer of sealant on the top side of the intake ports. (Silicone RTV has worked well). Save the paper gaskets. They may be usefull some day.

 

[lewtot184]

the paper gasket thingy is a product of the '69 a12 intake that was machined the wrong angles. stock iron intakes on stock iron heads don't need papers.

 

[63RedFury]

I never used the gaskets on my A12 car either...

 

[monaco66coupe]

Never had a stock motor, intake, and heads have a problem seating with just the metal gasket .. but you do need the steel valley pan hold downs for each end and it's not a bad idea to put small dab of silicone in the corners where the hold downs don't quite get to.

I wanted to post a picture of a 440 valley pan after mice lived on it, but it disappeared! NASTY! LoL

 

[A383Wing]

you really don't need sealer around the intake ports....but you must put it on both end rails from corner to corner across the block under the valley pan. Otherwise it will weep oil down the block at the rear and you will think you got a rear main seal leak

 

[Meep-Meep]

You likely won't be able to get the paper gaskets in if you tried. I have no idea why they sell them. Only wedge engine that I know of used paper gaskets was the Max Wedge. And the cross ram sealed to the ends of the block like a hemi intake.

 

[Garys1969RR]

I was thinking about getting a valley pan cover for my 451. 440 source sells them for $29.95. Then I suppose you just use the paper gaskets when swapping intake manifolds. I wonder if you could just use sealant and no paper gasket? Has any one used these valley pan covers? How well do they work? I heard that at least 1 cyl head has to be removed to install/remove the valley pan only, as it fits below the cyl head under the intake ports.

 

[lewtot184]

I was thinking about getting a valley pan cover for my 451. 440 source sells them for $29.95. Then I suppose you just use the paper gaskets when swapping intake manifolds. I wonder if you could just use sealant and no paper gasket? Has any one used these valley pan covers? How well do they work? I heard that at least 1 cyl head has to be removed to install/remove the valley pan only, as it fits below the cyl head under the intake ports.

i've made a valley pan for iron heads and just used the papers by themselves on the intake/head mating surface. eliminates sucking oil up thru the valley.

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I never used the gaskets on my A12 car either...

to my knowledge the original '69 edelbrock manifolds were cut the wrong angles. one side would suck air the other oil. i remember buying one of these early edelbrock manifolds in '69. the angles were so bad i should've thrown the thing away but i thought if i bought another it would be as bad. tried paper gaskets (back then they were .060" thick) and any gimmick i could think of back then. i finally had the intake re-machined. the early '70 edelbrock intakes, or least the one i had later on, fit good. the early stuff was a problem. as i think about it, of the 4 intakes i've used thru the years only that early '70 fit good.

 

[Propwash]

http://www.jegs.com/i/Fel-Pro/375/1214/10002/-1


Here's one with the crossovers blocked, if you were looking.

 

[bobtile]

I was thinking about getting a valley pan cover for my 451. 440 source sells them for $29.95. Then I suppose you just use the paper gaskets when swapping intake manifolds. I wonder if you could just use sealant and no paper gasket? Has any one used these valley pan covers? How well do they work? I heard that at least 1 cyl head has to be removed to install/remove the valley pan only, as it fits below the cyl head under the intake ports.

the 440 source pan looks good. no leaking anywhere, but you do have to loosen one head up to get it on.

 

[lewtot184]

i made this for iron heads.