Lookie what $5000 buys you....

[Kern Dog]

There is a member here that is advertising a bunch of 1970 Charger body panels. Of course the man is all the way across the country in New York!
I guess with the way the population is scattered in the country, there are large groups of people on the east and northeast parts of the country as well as out here in California but the areas we call Flyover states dont have nearly the same population. I’ve wondered about how many classics end up on Indian reservations. I don’t know whether they have to abide by state laws for vehicle registration if they never leave their reservations.

I had Jigsaw out today. It is great how one can drive two cars that are basically the same yet they drive very different.
This one is a 383 automatic with 3.91 gears and manual front disc/rear drum. Compared to the red car…

Jigsaw is slower, quieter, smoother riding yet is still a Charger.
The non power brakes feel so different from power brake cars. Initial pedal pressure results in a genuine feel that brakes start to bite but additional pressure seems like the brakes don’t bite any harder. Every power brake car I’ve driven has brake force that increases as pedal pressure is also increased. I’ve had manual disc/drum A bodies that had very impressive brakes but these are nowhere near as good. I had similar luck when I tried manual 4 wheel discs in the red car. The pedal pressure could be really high but the brakes just didn’t respond.
The 383 runs great. The hydraulic flat tappet cam is as quiet as a stock 318. It lacks the off idle snap that this turd has.

The Dart is just a basically stock 360 with a 280/474 cam and 4.10 gears. I wonder if the longer stroke and lighter weight, coupled with the additional gearing makes that much difference?

 

[Potmetalman]

Ta-da !
1970 Charger XH model.
The car has been sitting for at least 10 years, probably more.View attachment 824459 View attachment 824460 View attachment 824461 View attachment 824462

Floors are solid. Rear window channel looks great even though it had a vinyl top. Trunk needs a new floor pan though. No flip top cap or filler neck. Probably a bunch of missing parts that I haven't noticed yet.

Man, If I could find one of those for $5k, I'd buy in a second!! My Dad has wanted a '68 since he was a young man.

 

[CoronetDarter]

The Dart is just a basically stock 360 with a 280/474 cam and 4.10 gears. I wonder if the longer stroke and lighter weight, coupled with the additional gearing makes that much difference?

Oh yeah it does. Went from 3.55s to 4.10s in the Dart and it really woke it up. It has the 380 hp/360 magnum crate motor. The engine comes with a big cam and relatively low compression so the lower gears make a huge difference down low.

 

[Kern Dog]

There isn't one.. What there is is a very slight flat area machined down the side of the lifter from the oil ring to the base....

On a hydraulic a hole through the bottom would cause the oil to bleed out & the plunger would collapse causing the lifters to rattle at every startup & you know a few wouldn't quiet ever down...

I've been running these for three years now, never had any noise, the cam survived initial break-in well & I've spun it up to 6500+ on many occasions...

I was going through this thread for fun and saw this post of yours about those Crower lifters. Oregon cams and a couple others offer this service to used or even new lifters. This very thing may sway me back to running a flat tappet cam. My red car has a solid flat tappet that runs great but the cam is a little soft at the low end. I always wince a bit at the cost of switching to a roller cam so I'm still undecided.

 

[Bighouse]

I was going through this thread for fun and saw this post of yours about those Crower lifters. Oregon cams and a couple others offer this service to used or even new lifters. This very thing may sway me back to running a flat tappet cam. My red car has a solid flat tappet that runs great but the cam is a little soft at the low end. I always wince a bit at the cost of switching to a roller cam so I'm still undecided.

Check out Powell Cams on YouTube. Anything I get is going through that guy.

 

[Ceedawg]

Oh yeah it does. Went from 3.55s to 4.10s in the Dart and it really woke it up. It has the 380 hp/360 magnum crate motor. The engine comes with a big cam and relatively low compression so the lower gears make a huge difference down low.

have you raced the car? What numbers? I’m thinking of putting my 360-380 in a 65 Plymouth

 

[Kern Dog]

have you raced the car? What numbers? I’m thinking of putting my 360-380 in a 65 Plymouth

I drove the Dart.
The MP 360/380 is a production Truck and Van engine with a bigger cam and a single plane M1 intake. They had stock 9.0 compression and stock heads.
In his Dart, the car was a little soft in the low rpm range but did come alive as you got over 3000 rpms. Personally, I like an engine that feels stronger on the bottom end of the RPM scale. A high stall converter might help but his car was a Tremec 5 speed. I would have had to rev the heck out of it to get it to scram and I didn't want to do that to another man's car.
Rich is rebuilding his 360/380 using a 4" crank and .030 pistons to arrive at a 408" deal. I'll bet the next cam will have less duration and more lift. He is planning on a set of Trick Flow heads too. Longer stroke engines usually make more power down low, all else being equal.
In my opinion, I would not use the 360/380 in a heavy car unless you had steep axle gears and a 3500 RPM stall converter.