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LS2 powered Roadrunner

anmracing

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Check it yo!!! A '73 RR updated with an '06 LS2...

I bet it's a lot more reliable...... I know an LS1 & 2 with a trans and computer are averaging around 3-4k. I bet rebuilding the original 400 and converting it to EFI then getting a 6 spd trans would put the cost at twice that.
 
Hey if it got his old ride back on the road for him to enjoy...more power to him. He could always dress it up somehow to look like modern mopar engine I suppose.
 
Check it yo!!! A '73 RR updated with an '06 LS2...

I bet it's a lot more reliable...... I know an LS1 & 2 with a trans and computer are averaging around 3-4k. I bet rebuilding the original 400 and converting it to EFI then getting a 6 spd trans would put the cost at twice that.

It wouldn't be my 1st choice but to each there own, I guess...Even in Hot Rods, I all ways like to see Mopars with Mopar engines, Fords with Ford engines, Chevys with Chevy engines, Pontiacs with Pontiac engines etc. It would have been just as easy to put a 5.7 Hemi & 5spd in it... But it's his car, he should do with it what he wants. JMO
 
It wouldn't be my 1st choice but to each there own, I guess...Even in Hot Rods, I all ways like to see Mopars with Mopar engines, Fords with Ford engines, Chevys with Chevy engines, Pontiacs with Pontiac engines etc. It would have been just as easy to put a 5.7 Hemi & 5spd in it... But it's his car, he should do with it what he wants. JMO

Sounds like he got a rockin deal on the driveline. I wouldn't go out and search for one on purpose for my Mopar, but if it fell into my lap, what the hell.

The A body site has a big thread going about this subject. I think it's weird that the same guys that bash the Chevy in a Mopar swap will turn right around and say they wouldn't mind seeing a Nailhead Buick in a 32 Ford.
 
Why go through the retro fit to a Mopar body? If you want a Chevy then just buy a Chevy.

Not dissing either one here. I have owned all different makes in the past and all have their good and bad features but I draw the line at mixing engines and bodies of other makes.
 
I've thought about doing the same but didn't want to face the wrath of the Mopar purists.. BUT... it would a lot cheaper and more power to go the Lsx engine route in any car. Thats why you see a lot of fox body mustangs with LSx engine in them.

I have a 4.8 ls engine w/32k on it complete I got for $500 and the trans was $450.
Little fabrication work and its a solid combination making decent power for less than ... say 1500 by the time all is said and done... no way you can touch that in mopar modern EFI...

plus the heads that are out there for LSx engines are better, better valvetrain setup per dollar spent


It comes down to what important to you... If your a Mopar nut and have to have it mopar all the way then you wouldn't do it. But if you looking for a cool looking car with one of the better modern day power plant combinations for the best money then you go that route... I can build an LSx 440 for say $12500 and have it make 600+ rwhp on 91 octane pump gas.. and get 20-27 mpg on the highway.. try doing that in old school anything
 
Actually I think it always comes down to money. The problem with putting an off brand engine in a car to save money bits you in the *** on the other end when you go to sell it unless you happen to find someone on the same page as you. However in that case they are usually a cheap *** that want to grind you on the price because that is the way they are or they have researched it to see what it does to the value.

The simple facts are that Chevies are always cheaper to restore because there are so many more of them and more resto/race parts support available. Mopars are just the opposite because there are fewer of them and less aftermarket support. This is ONE of the reasons when the market was at the top prices were higher on Mopars then on competing make/models.
 
Well those cheaper Chevy's are drawing more money than the Mopar now on the market place. Mopars are down price these days. yea there are those Mopar guys who always want a million bucks but the market dictates the money not the seller. You can call it worth what ever you want but in the end its worth what it can be sold for. Hybrids done correctly fetch good money and if someone wants a good looking car with a solid running modern day engine... like about 65% of the market does these days then its a good idea and it doesn't bit you on the *** on the other end

And there is a reason there are more chevy's than mopar.. it was called demand
 
it wouldnt be my 1st choice but if you got it enjoy it. my B1 TS motor doesnt look mopar just the block.
 

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Sumbitch oughta be shot!!!:angry1::angry1:

Why? Because he didn't spend twice as much to rebuild the blown motor, but instead put in a 400 hp motor that he got for half the cost and gets three times the mpg? Or should he have just let the car sit and rot until he could afford to build the motor? His car, he did what he wanted and what he thought was best for HIM. It's called Hotrodding.

I got a friend with a 63 Ford Unibody truck. He put in a turbo'd 6.2 LS with a 4l80E (with a gearvendors on the back of that). He traded/swapped/worked for all the parts to put it together. It's fricken fast for a POS Ford truck.

How many of you are happy to see an old 392 Hemi in a 32 Highboy roadster? It didn't come from the factory that way. It's a crap load of work to make it fit. So where's the difference?

I have an 88 Grand Wagoneer. Are you going to get mad when I install an LS in that? Are you going to say that if I want late model power and milage in that I should stick with Mopar and use a 5.7 Hemi and OD trans?
Consider that I can get a 5.3 or 6.2 LS motor and 4l60 a lot cheaper and get it running for less. Or, consider that from the factory that it came with an AMC 360 (which I loathe) a Chrysler trans and transfer case, Motorcrap ignition, and all GM electrics (switches, alternator, guages, window motors, steering column.....). Where does my loyalty fall when the factory used the "other" guys?
 
Well those cheaper Chevy's are drawing more money than the Mopar now on the market place. Mopars are down price these days. yea there are those Mopar guys who always want a million bucks but the market dictates the money not the seller. You can call it worth what ever you want but in the end its worth what it can be sold for. Hybrids done correctly fetch good money and if someone wants a good looking car with a solid running modern day engine... like about 65% of the market does these days then its a good idea and it doesn't bit you on the *** on the other endAnd there is a reason there are more chevy's than mopar.. it was called demand

I agree with the 1st part, yes, Mopars are down as are many of the GM cars excepting older Corvettes. I study the market monthly.

A CORRECTLY done car is the exception. Basicly what you are referring to is nothing more than a street rod which in the 60's early 70s bodies is now called a resto-mod. As with street rods you have to find that ONE guy that like all that you have done. Unlike the many that are looking for a particular model that tripped their trigger from their youth.

I don't know where you came up with a 65% number but I sincerely doubt it.
 
I agree with the 1st part, yes, Mopars are down as are many of the GM cars excepting older Corvettes. I study the market monthly.

A CORRECTLY done car is the exception. Basicly what you are referring to is nothing more than a street rod which in the 60's early 70s bodies is now called a resto-mod. As with street rods you have to find that ONE guy that like all that you have done. Unlike the many that are looking for a particular model that tripped their trigger from their youth.

I don't know where you came up with a 65% number but I sincerely doubt it.

The OC Barrett kinda looked like the Vette guys were getting hammered pretty hard, too.
 
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Check it yo!!!A '73 RR updated with an '06 LS2...​

Now THAT.... is some repugnant s**t....:eek:

If it helps.... here is a 55 Nomad with an early Hemi....​
 

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I like it. It shows that the hot rod innovators are still around. It does come down to the almighty dollar too. A lot of thought and effort went into this car, just like all of our cars. You might as well ask a person, why did you change your cam, or why do you want to convert to a 4 spd? Well, because its all about the hobby...

Whats the diff from this and what the old geezers of the '50's &'60' were doing? sorry, no offense to the old geezers out there..... :p
 
Cross brand motor swaps are very street-rod to me. I guess that is fine if you are talking a 32 Ford or 40 Willys.

But a 73 roadrunner with an LS6? Or for argument's sake an Olds 442 with a 427 Ford engine? I'll pass.
 
Wow you guy's are going to be pissed at me when I post pic's of my 1990 Mitsubishi Turbo 4G63 in my 1974 Plymouth Satellite lol
 
I agree with the 1st part, yes, Mopars are down as are many of the GM cars excepting older Corvettes. I study the market monthly.

A CORRECTLY done car is the exception. Basicly what you are referring to is nothing more than a street rod which in the 60's early 70s bodies is now called a resto-mod. As with street rods you have to find that ONE guy that like all that you have done. Unlike the many that are looking for a particular model that tripped their trigger from their youth.

I don't know where you came up with a 65% number but I sincerely doubt it.

I watch Mecum all the time and thats the trend I am seeing from last year to this..Chevelles selling for far to much money and GTX's and Challengers getting significantly less.. Camaros are selling for what the Cuda used to sell for. The 65% is a rough estimate might be a little hight but I see a lot of them selling for decent money. You don't even want to look for 57 Bel Air.. Chevy is king of the hill right now at the Mecum auctions...

Plus I said like 65% want... that doesn't mean that 65% are being sold in that condition..... take for example this: I want my car to have 500 rwhp and get 27 mpg on the highway and be the awesome looking car that it is.... I'm going to get what I want in one area but no in the other if I stick with an old school engine setup... so in order to have the best of both worlds I would have to go with modern EFI engine.... If I went that route I'd slap in an LSx engine for half the price of an SRT8 setup and make a lot more power for a lot less money...

There is no detriment to doing that... will there be those out there that don't appreciate it ? Of course but who cares what they think, they don't have the same needs and wants that you do. You put anyone in a car and let them drive it and it performs awesome, 95% wont care whats under the hood... there are those purists that wont like it but who cares what they think, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... different strokes for different folks.....
 
There is nothing wrong with it.

Here is the way things have progress over the decades and at the bottom how it has and will effect all of us in the future.

40s: After WWII when GIs came home there were really no cars that spoke to the youth until into the mid 50s so guys were taking cars from the 20s-30s and chopping them up, adding what custom speed equipment that was available or they could manufacture themselves (thus the birth of custom speed equipment companies) etc. Then with the birth of more V8s in the large cars such as Cads. & Lins. the hot rodders had power plants avaialble and these cars got faster. Now custom paint, flames, etc. came on the scene.

50s: When car mans. finally started to make some decent looking cars with some style in the mid 50s and GM gave birth to the light weight V8 in the form of the 265 CID engine (that is still with us in up to 400 CID) The WWII and younger buyer began abandoning their hot rodding days and started the customizing craze. Lowering cars, lake pipes, custom paint and interiors because they had cars with a decent power plant from the factory. Still the custom equipment companies grew primarily for the race crowd which was mainly street racers.

60s: Saw the move to sanctioned off road racing in the form of drag strips, added interest in stock car racing, and sports car racing. The manufacturers slowly recognized the youth market as a considerable buying market and the muscle car was truley born in the mid 60s along with the pony cars. Still the after market mans. continued to grow.

70s: With the decline of muscle cars due to high insurance, poor fuel available, high priced fuel, etc. both the truck and van craze began with the van getting the larger share for a short window of time.

80s & 90s: The smog years and more of style in the form of stripes, spoilers, flairs etc. IROCs, Firebirds, HO Mustangs, Shelby Chargers, etc. Some with still the ability to perform like the core vehicles of the original muscle cars.

The new century: This saw the NEW muscle cars mid decade to present with the Mustangs, Challengers and Camaros.

Now, with all of this said NONE of these core groups have ever died out. The hot rodders, customizers, muscle car, vanners and of course truck people etc. are all still with us. Some in the form of old gezzers, some with new younger blood in all of these groups. The vast majority have maintained their core loyalty to their group but the NEW YOUNGER muscle car guys have deviated to some degree with the resto-mod craze that is not too far removed from the hot rooders with the exception that they want to maintain the original outward appearance with the new technology of current drivetrains for both power and economy.
HOWEVER, I certainly don't see anywhere CLOSE to the above stated 65%. Time will tell what lies ahead. History has always shown us that things are cyclical and most things return to their core roots. Most people are loyal to their vehicle manufacturers and the drive trains they came with. The Chevy engines have always been popular with hot rodders because of availability and the lower cost. I think what we are seeing today with some of these GM engines in Mopars is the same thing, more economical in these tight times but I doubt that it will last and then those that did it will find out what the REALLY saved (or didn't) when things swing back around and they want to sell.
 
I wouldn't want a Chevy engine in my Satellite and i wouldn't want a Mopar engine in my Camaro, but it comes down to what each individual wants, Your ride..Your way.
 
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