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My intro (1967 Charger):

D’Avi

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Here it goes...

Been looking to re-up the toy box as I had to cash out years ago due to my own financial hardships.

Better times, though not a rich man, I’ve been on the search for a classic car that I thoroughly enjoy the styling of, but at the same time wish to impart my own personality on (over time).

Hence, I’ve been looking for a very good to great condition example that I could drive and enjoy and modify at my leisure.

Yesterday, 6/1/20, I went to pick up said example - a 1967 Charger in very good condition. Or so it seems...

I was told the 383 engine and auto transmission and torque converter and rearend were all recently rebuilt, as represented by the odometer reading of 2690 or so.

You know how they say don’t drive tired?

Well don’t buy tired either.

I hadn’t slept in over 24 hours, just got off a plane that I had boarded just after finishing a long shift at work, flying across country fro NJ to AZ to inspect, and ultimately purchase a vehicle that I’m not saying that I necessarily shouldn’t have, but that I shouldn’t have paid so much for.

Yes! I inspected it. Yes! I test drove it. Yes! I asked the appropriate questions....

What I let slip was the true test drive the vehicle warranted and the deeper dive I should’ve made. I should’ve insisted on taking the vehicle further onto smoother roads to open it up a bit and put it through its paces a little.

A lot of little fixes that add up, combined with some major ones to be discovered 400 miles down the road.
I definitely cashed in on the inaugural day of my Hagerty policy.


On the more positive side -
It’s a beautiful car. And when it drove well, I really enjoyed it.

It gets tons of attention, which I’ve always been on the fence about, but I take the compliment and I lodge peoples questions, snooping and picture taking. After all, it is a cool thing to see people get excited over a car.

Also, despite my misfortune with the car, I was very fortunate to come upon some of the most standup individuals in their professions in the town/city of Las Cruces, New Mexico.

The tow operator, who was very careful with how he handled the vehicle as well as helpful and understanding to my plight, breaking down midnight, the 1st day, only 400 miles into my 2500 mile road trip.

And the mechanics and service managers at 3 separate automotive repair facilities ( Baird’s, Desert Automotive, and Richard’s Automotive ): all stand-up human beings, understanding my predicament, trying to work with me, and when they couldn’t help in a short time frame themselves, had no hesitation to recommend other solutions and even their trusted competitors of repute.


The big shout out here goes to Baird’s. The service manager there, Greg, couldn’t have been more helpful, doing his best to expedite initial diagnostics on my vehicle to see if he could get me on the road again. However with the extensive work required, his garage was already backed up with customers and he was honest and straightforward with a timeline, offering alternative options. He even offered to store the vehicle and facilitate transport pickup for my car.

Ultimately, I “wasted” the trip and some money but gained an experience.

I arranged a car carrier to pick up the car, booked a next day flight, a hotel room for the night and a ride to the closest airport 100 miles away.

In the end, I got a beautiful car that needs a lot of work. It’s like a runway model in need of a heart transplant, or a triple bypass at least.

I’ve been lurking here reading the boards for some time to increase my knowledge, and figured that now that I’m an owner I’d jump into the fray.

Of the things I KNOW that need immediate addressing - the motor and rear end.

At this point I’m not sure if I want to salvage the original 383 or venture into 6.4 Gen 3 territory. I suppose cost is the real issue there.

Although I do appreciate the character of a carb’d vehicle, I also do not care for the temperament.

As for the rear, if I’m going to upgrade the motor, I probably should preempt that with a built rear with a 4 link or something.

Anyway, if anyone has any advice or suggestions for NJ automotive shops let me know... particularly those capable of a swap.

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Very nice car. A few things.. forget the Hemi swap. Get the engine running properly. You bought it with the current engine and paid for it. What changed. 4 link suspension? uh, no. Make the best of what you've got, if you need an 8 sec 4 linked hemi dart, then trade that beautiful Charger in and find one. I hope the best for you. Rem
 
welcome to FBBO

good luck with the issues of the new car/project
 
Welcome to the group.
Sharp looking Charger.
I'm interested to know what's actually wrong with the motor and rear end.
A 383 and an 8-3/4" rear end rarely fail and at the same time?
 
The 383 lost oil pressure and I’m told it’s likely a cam bearing from the “recently rebuilt” motor.
It’s not the sending unit either, it legitimately lost oil pressure and oil is not reaching the top of the engine.
As for the rear end, I missed hearing it because I did not put the car through it’s paces on a test drive at higher rpms and higher speed. This is all in addition to the speedometer cable going at the same exact time and scaring the living **** out of me, screaming like a banshee.

The only disclosed issue that I am dealing with is of course the headlights. The problem here is two fold. One motor does not turn and the high beams flicker on and off.

There are several other minor fixes I discovered along the way.
 
:( That's awful.
You will get some good advice here.
Best of luck, keep us posted.
 
Welcome. I can relate to a lot. Thanks for the details. Makes me feel more normal.
 
Welcome from Missouri!! The car is beautiful and it's all good!! Stuff happens and no one ever knows when. I have a 65 coronet with a 5.7. I love it, but, if it has a 383, keep it. You can change it later, but it will only be a 383 once. Good luck!!
 
Thanks for the welcome and kind words.

Posting a few more photos...
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Once I meet the car back in NJ and have a chance for someone to take a more in depth look at her, I will post updates.
In all honesty, if it’s going to cost several thousand to fix, I probably will go the Gen 3 and be done with it, because ultimately that is probably the route I will go in the end anyway.
If it’s only a few thousand, I’ll keep the 383 and deal with the quirks.
 
Welcome from Windsor Ontario Canada.
Beautiful car sorry to hear of the issues getting her home but she will be worth it.
I have a 66 Charger myself and have had issues with the headlight motors and until I get the right person to fix them I loosened off the bolts that hold the position of the headlight just enough to manually spin them.
Not a big deal I just flip them for the evening and when Im done for the night I flip them back shut to see the beautiful smile of the grill.
Cheers and good luck
Donnie
 
She’s finally home. Sort of.
Sits at the mechanic’s currently - just got the diagnosis.

The original 383 engine pretty much grenaded.
This “freshly rebuilt” 2600 miles ago engine has a crank that looks like this:
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... and there was enough metal/rust polluting the inside of the engine that it destroyed the oil pump, scored and gouged it up it pretty well enough that the tolerances in there are too large to maintain adequate oil pressure.

I was quoted roughly $10k on a replacement 383 installed.
Thing is, I’m having a hard time getting my head around spending that much only to put a largely unsupported/outdated engine back into the car. A 440 would be a better option at this point. However, even that will run me at least another $5k... again, for an outdated engine.

So I had an original, parts matching car...
But now that the engine is blown, I feel like putting my money toward a Gen 3 Hemi is probably the smartest choice here.
Ultimately / eventually, it’s the way I wanted to go anyway. I just figured I’d have a driver and be able to enjoy it in the meantime.
 
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