Never Forget

[Speedbird]

According to a sailor the the tapping from inside ships did not stop till almost Christmas.
They just didn't have the equipment to get them out.

 

[Hey-O]

Let us remember those in thanks and prayer.

X2, bottom line!!

 

[71RRHI]

Pearl Harbor survivor Bob Fernandez passed today. There are only 16 remaining Pearl Harbor survivors.

 

[j-c-c-62]

According to a sailor the the tapping from inside ships did not stop till almost Christmas.
They just didn't have the equipment to get them out.

I have not heard that. I would think the aguish those felt who daily had to face that as they went about the tasks needed to clean up and rebuild had to very unsettling and a huge drag on morale, knowing their shipmates were dying a slow death entombed.
No wonder so many veterans were so hesitant to share their war time experiences.

 

[Rishi]

According to a sailor the the tapping from inside ships did not stop till almost Christmas. They just didn't have the equipment to get them out.

16 days. seriously horrifying and heartbreaking.

3 Sailors Were Trapped in the West Virginia for 16 Days After the Pearl Harbor Attack -

 

[33 IMP]

According to a sailor the the tapping from inside ships did not stop till almost Christmas.
They just didn't have the equipment to get them out.

VERY hard for me to believe that they couldn't come up with something to cut into the bottom of a ship, at the number one naval base in the whole pacific ocean.
They couldn't fly anything in from the mainland if somehow by accident they didn't have anything?
(Sailor fantasy story)

 

[Basket case]

VERY hard for me to believe that they couldn't come up with something to cut into the bottom of a ship, at the number one naval base in the whole pacific ocean.
They couldn't fly anything in from the mainland if somehow by accident they didn't have anything?
(Sailor fantasy story)

they had torches...but those set off gas explosions inside the ship, or used up the oxygen letting the water inside rise.. They had air chiesels...that let the air escape....and let the water inside the ship rise faster then they could make a hole. One of the few things the movie Pearl Harbor got right.

 

[Speedbird]

Since the West Virginia was not capsized cutting the hull probably wasn't an option.
The sailor I listened to may have said "We had no way of getting them out".
It's been years since I heard him describe it in brief terms.
Constraints, logistics or equipment.
A great lady once said, what difference does it make?
(Good thread on drones)

 

[33 IMP]

Since the West Virginia was not capsized cutting the hull probably wasn't an option.
The sailor I listened to may have said "We had no way of getting them out".
It's been years since I heard him describe it in brief terms.
Constraints, logistics or equipment.
A great lady once said, what difference does it make?
(Good thread on drones)

My bad. I just assumed the Oklahoma or Utah was the ship referenced, since I knew they did cut a few sailors out of the bottom of Oklahoma.
I forgot they could have been trapped in WeeVee or California too.

 

[j-c-c-62]

This was interesting:
MSN

First, I have ever heard this story, and I can see how it helped panic the population into creating the horrible internment camps.
Secondly, if an outer uninhabited island was intentionally "furrowed" by request of the military to thwart any crash landings of enemy aircraft that were in the area with hostile intent, makes me believe a "sneak" attack was not that unexpected as it was said it was.

 

[Budnicks]

Could not agree more. My wife and I been there twice, and the experience is truly humbling.

Same here everytime I went to the Pro-Bowl, from 1993-2017
I only missed 1 year in there 1999 IIRC, (a few time before that in the mid 80's)
13 times with a bunch of my MNF parties & a couple Or. college buddies
we'd go to Pearl Harbor (you could see it from the top of Aloha stadium too
& we'd always make a point to go see the Arizona memorial

& air Museum Hickam Field (not sure what's there now)
but they were bombarded too
IIRC they/Japanese Zeros took out, all but 2-3 planes on the grounds there
only a couple planes, corsairs (?) got up
all the rest destroyed, while lined up & all stored side by side
men fighting from the ground, anti-air weapons...
People forget about them a lot...

 

[Rishi]

a "sneak" attack was not that unexpected as it was said it was.

Be careful, there.

 

[Basket case]

This was interesting:
MSN

First, I have ever heard this story, and I can see how it helped panic the population into creating the horrible internment camps.
Secondly, if an outer uninhabited island was intentionally "furrowed" by request of the military to thwart any crash landings of enemy aircraft that were in the area with hostile intent, makes me believe a "sneak" attack was not that unexpected as it was said it was.

This is the Jap Zero from that crash. Now in The Pearl Harbor Avation Museum. Saw it in 2022. And our own Navy was doing "sneal attacks" on Pearl in war games in the '20s and '30s.

 

[33 IMP]

This is the Jap Zero from that crash. Now in The Pearl Harbor Avation Museum. Saw it in 2022. And our own Navy was doing "sneal attacks" on Pearl in war games in the '20s and '30s.

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.... and on the Panama Canal. The air attack games were almost always successful there too.