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New 512 Stroker Running hot

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I was going to use this and go for a drive then do it again. Almost finished sealing front of radiator. Bottom hose now has spring. New coolant and water wetter. I also think I’ve found my oil leak I’ve been trying to locate since first start. It’s the valley cover. But have you ever seen one that is beveled and wedges under the heads? How the f@&$ am I supposed to fix this?

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I have a dual plane intake manifold so I use the original valley pan.

Did you have to install the valley cover first before installing the cylinder heads?
 
This is a random question but since your build is almost exactly like what I'm working on right now, are you using anything special on the bottom end? I'm talking billet main caps, ARP main studs, girdle?

I'm doing the RB version of this build but with 240 heads and a Sniper EFI. Same cam specs, same cubes, same intake etc...
The machine work to fit billet main caps is really expensive, and I think over kill at 600 HP. Check what your machine shop charges to fit the main caps to the block.
Do use main studs. With the studs, the mains might need align honed, but that us way less expensive than align boring aftermarket caps.
The BCR stuff is nice. Have the caps and girdle on a stroked 400 block. Not sure if they still sell these: Caps and Girdle System
I haven't used a SpeedMaster girdle, but that say 3/8" thick, but you will have to source all the hardware: https://www.jegs.com/i/Speedmaster/746/PCE288.1018/10002/-1
The 440 512" stroker has a 440 Source girdle and hardware. 1/4 Main Girdle Setup
I think it used to be less expensive back when I bought it.
The girdles make fitting the 4.15" stroker molded windage tray / gasket clear the 4.25" stroker assembly easier. https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/502001/10002/-1?_br_psugg_q=mopar+windage+tray
 
On the cooling issue, with the automatic trans, run the hot trans fluid output through an external trans cooler before running it through the lower radiator core. don't make the lower radiator do all of / or the majority of cooling the trans fluid as it will make the engine pump inlet pull hotter radiator fluid into the engine.
 
So bit of an update. I fixed a few of the minor things. Bottom hose, Radiator sealing between the support, burped the system new coolant and water wetter and tweaked my tune its a little on the rich side now. I runs fine and criusing along at 3200rpm 70mph or 120kph temp rose to 205f before turning on freeway and started dropping after that. Seems to want to sit between 195 and 200f on the open road. very much appreciated all comments above thank you. I have other problems now but I will raise a new thread.
 
On the cooling issue, with the automatic trans, run the hot trans fluid output through an external trans cooler before running it through the lower radiator core. don't make the lower radiator do all of / or the majority of cooling the trans fluid as it will make the engine pump inlet pull hotter radiator fluid into the engine.
I've got external trans cooler. I mounted it in front of radiator about 1" gad and seems to be ok. I worry it blocks a bit too much airflow though.
 
I have a dual plane intake manifold so I use the original valley pan.

Did you have to install the valley cover first before installing the cylinder heads?
yeah the heads are bolted on top of the chamfer each side of the valley plate. I cant pinpoint exactly the location of the leak though.I think its in a few places. I tottally degreased everything and brake cleaned any common tracks and this photo below can see drop under lug below head and underneath the starter. It seems to be tracking down to sump seal and sump hangs in the bellhousing so its pooling up there. Does this mean I am pulling my heads off or is there some miracle fix? haha cheers.



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Elec fans slammed up against the rad core can act as baffles, inhibiting air flow.
Yeah I am looking at fabricating a shroud but I have zero space between pulley and the radiator. Shroud is going to have to be no thicker than 5-10mm so not sure if thats even worse baffle.
 
With that cooling set up I really think you should be fine. The fact that you are overheating tells me that there is something in the system that is causing the problem. Before you add foam or other things to help, I would go through the entire system and eliminate potential problems. If you don't take this approach, you can really end up chasing your own tail.
I had an RB 512 with Trick Flow 240's and just a stock 26" radiator and stock shroud. This set up worked well with the exception of very hot days (100+) in heavy traffic. In those conditions the heat would creep up some.

so would a bone stock 440 back in the day ...
 
I went through 3 bad T-stats in a row from 3 different major manufacturers. I got fed up with not knowing if there was coolant flowing so I installed a "Gano" see through filter. See attached picture. I also have 2 big electric fans & they pull way too much juice. I will be changing to a standard clutch fan in the near future.

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look at this shroud , not conducive to pulling a lot of air over the entire rad...
 
yeah the heads are bolted on top of the chamfer each side of the valley plate. I cant pinpoint exactly the location of the leak though.I think its in a few places. I tottally degreased everything and brake cleaned any common tracks and this photo below can see drop under lug below head and underneath the starter. It seems to be tracking down to sump seal and sump hangs in the bellhousing so its pooling up there. Does this mean I am pulling my heads off or is there some miracle fix? haha cheers.



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First on the cooling issue. Overheating at highway speeds has nothing much to do with fans. At that speed there is plenty of airflow. Thermostats rarely stick shut. They almost always fail partialy open. I'd be looking as timing and ducting through the radiator itself. Now to the valley plate. It is possible to remove that style without removing the heads on Indy -1s. So I'd give it a try on the Trick Flows. The biggest hurdle is cutting the RTV at the front and rear of the plate. On the Indy plates I tapped the center hole of the plate 3/8"x24. Then bolts can be screwed into the plate touching the block. Doesn't take much, just enough to lift the center slightly. Then get a thin knife between the plate and block to cut the RTV. On the head junction just slice through the RTV from the top. Once it's all cut take a block of wood and tap the plate rearward until its completly loose. It may take a little more knife work. The plate will fall down into the valey. Twist and remove. On reinstall the RTV ony needs to be spread thin on all 4 surfaces. Put a nice dab in each corner. Adda little behind the head to block junction at the top inside corner of the head gasket. Hold the plate with 4" long bolts screwed into the two tapped holes in the end of the plate. Then it can be lowered into tha valley twisted and pulled up. After it's bolted in add a line down the head/plate junction. Do a dry run 1st. It isn't the easiest job. But far easier than pulling the heads. As seen in this pic a valley acces plate was added for easy lifter swap. The second pic shows the RTV at the head to plate.
Doug

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First on the cooling issue. Overheating at highway speeds has nothing much to do with fans. At that speed there is plenty of airflow. Thermostats rarely stick shut. They almost always fail partialy open. I'd be looking as timing and ducting through the radiator itself. Now to the valley plate. It is possible to remove that style without removing the heads on Indy -1s. So I'd give it a try on the Trick Flows. The biggest hurdle is cutting the RTV at the front and rear of the plate. On the Indy plates I tapped the center hole of the plate 3/8"x24. Then bolts can be screwed into the plate touching the block. Doesn't take much, just enough to lift the center slightly. Then get a thin knife between the plate and block to cut the RTV. On the head junction just slice through the RTV from the top. Once it's all cut take a block of wood and tap the plate rearward until its completly loose. It may take a little more knife work. The plate will fall down into the valey. Twist and remove. On reinstall the RTV ony needs to be spread thin on all 4 surfaces. Put a nice dab in each corner. Adda little behind the head to block junction at the top inside corner of the head gasket. Hold the plate with 4" long bolts screwed into the two tapped holes in the end of the plate. Then it can be lowered into tha valley twisted and pulled up. After it's bolted in add a line down the head/plate junction. Do a dry run 1st. It isn't the easiest job. But far easier than pulling the heads. As seen in this pic a valley acces plate was added for easy lifter swap. The second pic shows the RTV at the head to plate.
Doug

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The valley plate falls in after you clear the bolted flange at the front. There is no support under the plate running along the head? Of course! Genius! What a mental design how does it not piss oil all the way along the heads this has made my night thank you!

Also agree on the cooling issue I believe I have that sussed now too!
 
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