Old vs new crash

[diesel_lv]

For those that swear by old steel vs new in a crash.

 

[67charger383]

I've seen this before. That Bel Air was a polished up and painted rust bucket pos (you can actually see rust dust and dirt fly on impact), and was a inline 6 car which wouldn't have held up as well in an impact. Not to mention that this is a GM x frame car and any full frame (or even a unibody) would have fared better.

 

[67charger383]

Here is a comment on a article about this test on the web:

 

[Speedbird]

The cowls are ticking time bombs in these cars.
I often wonder about cars that are dipped (or blasted) but the inside of the cowl goes unchecked and untouched.
I'm doing a cowl top right now on a 69 B body and the bottom was galvanized the top was not.
Even with that, I've managed to catch the bottom just in time.

 

[SgtSuperbird]

I believe the point of the video is that tech/design improvements have greatly improved the survivability of a serious crash in a modern vehicle.

- Retired Fire Chief, 34 years in the fire service

 

[jimt1971rr]

Although I don't have any personal experience with these cars, I did have a person run into my old 68 Barracuda in a similar manner in the mid 90s.

My car was parked in front of my house when it was hit by a mid 80s T-Bird and knocked a house length. The front corner of my car was crushed, the frame rail bent, inner fender pushed into the steering column, and part of the driver's door damaged from the impact. The interior of the car was completely intact. Not even a crack in the dash.

The driver if the T-Bird probably would have run, illegal alien, but his tire broke off.

This is why I have such a hard time with this video. I knew there is something about it that was a miss.

 

[67charger383]

Although I don't have any personal experience with these cars, I did have a person run into my old 68 Barracuda in a similar manner in the mid 90s.

My car was parked in front of my house when it was hit by a mid 80s T-Bird and knocked a house length. The front corner of my car was crushed, the frame rail bent, inner fender pushed into the steering column, and part of the driver's door damaged from the impact. The interior of the car was completely intact. Not even a crack in the dash.

The driver if the T-Bird probably would have run, illegal alien, but his tire broke off.

This is why I have such a hard time with this video. I knew there is something about it that was a miss.

Car was a polished rust bucket with the engine removed.

 

[WileE]

This is so old, it makes me look young. As mentioned before, it's hard to find a worse example than a rusted GM X-frame car, the worst possible chassis design. Those cars are garbage.

 

[diesel_lv]

I've seen this before. That Bel Air was a polished up and painted rust bucket pos (you can actually see rust dust and dirt fly on impact), and was a inline 6 car which wouldn't have held up as well in an impact. Not to mention that this is a GM x frame car and any full frame (or even a unibody) would have fared better.

The point isn't the damage to the car, it is the damage to the occupants. Had the Chevy not given, the damage to the Chevy occupants would most likely been worse.

 

[67charger383]

The point isn't the damage to the car, it is the damage to the occupants. Had the Chevy not given, the damage to the Chevy occupants would most likely been worse.

Chevy wouldn't have given if they were honest and used a rust free example with a engine under the hood...

 

[DeltaV]

 

[blue69runner]

Yes my upper and lower cowl replaced on this 69 runner. The big problem is it only got primed then put together. Some paint got shot through the drip opening. When car was painted. On the other hand when doing the car painted it all then assembled it. So the only bad catch all is where the fresh air duct's go through the lower cowl. Can't clean behind them and they are really tight spaced at the inner part. So high pressure water hose is the only way I see to clean them but who dose that.

 

[blue69runner]

Just to add how dose plastic hold up to a crash over metal.

 

[DeltaV]

We have many two-lane roads here in coastal with 55 mph speed limits. All too often there are head-on car/pickup/SUV collisions; and many are multiple fatality accidents. They occurred during daylight hours and weather was not a contributing factor.

 

[blue69runner]

No it is that darn cell phone or trying to take a picture while driving.

 

[Dennis H]

Getting sick of seeing that bullshit video.

 

[SgtSuperbird]

I'll take my chances in an accident with a modern era car.

https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-vehicle/historical-fatality-trends/deaths-and-rates/

Facts, not opinions. Sure, we all have our stories, but the number of deaths per miles driven AND the number of yearly deaths have dramatically dropped since the 1950s.

 

[Michael_]

I've seen this before. That Bel Air was a polished up and painted rust bucket pos (you can actually see rust dust and dirt fly on impact), and was a inline 6 car which wouldn't have held up as well in an impact. Not to mention that this is a GM x frame car and any full frame (or even a unibody) would have fared better.

I already thought it might be fishy. Now i know that i was right.

 

[blue69runner]

Think Seat belts where a big contributor to that fact. Also soft dashes. Oh and the dreaded air bag. That can brake your neck.

 

[Ironbuilt]

In my daily driver, I am not worried about a crash, though I pray that it doesn't happen.