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Poly 318? What do you know?

vintagetin

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My '66 originally had the early A 318 in it. Are they any good? I built a 360 for it, shaved the heads and I have a good running engine in it now, but I'm curious about the old 318. It's killing me letting it sit on the garage floor. I've been told the way the heads are designed they get good flow, but you can't raise the compression much because they tend to "spark knock" prematurely unlike the later, wedge styled LA heads. I know it's about 40 pounds heavier than my 360, and parts are expensive and a bitch to find. How is it on torque, economy, and durability?
 
I know a few things about them, not a whole lot.

How is it on torque, , and durability?

Torque, HP and economy are basicly the same as the "LA" version. A freind of mine gets 20 MPG's out of his Poly 318 on a regular bassis. He also has the Hwy gears @ 2.94 The engine can go hundreds of thousands of miles so long as you keep the fluids and filters fresh and changed out regularly.

Performance wise, you'll need to go to Racer Brown for a cam shaft. The pattern of the shaft is different on that engine.
Intakes can be found only used. 4bbl. and dualquad intakes are out there in factory flavor or after market aluminum style.
The poly also uses a bunch of "LA" parts as well.

Timing chain and sprokets, oil slinger, valve springs and seals with the best of all.....crank shaft, though the rear flange is different, year dependent, theres some weirdness going on there with it, I'm not to up on it.

But you can add a 4 inch stroke crank to the poly 318.

Pistons can be ordered easy enuff for it. Custom domes will run ya big bucks.

Heads can be done up OK. There not big flowers of sir. A split duration cam should be used with about 8-10 degress of extra duration to help the poor flow.

You can use a modern tranny. (Overdrive!) if you address the possible weird crank flange. The attaching bolt patterns are the same for the tranny to block.

It will also use the "LA" distributor, so if you wish, a MP distrib. can be used or a Mallory, MSD, accel, etc....can go in there.

Headers by tti are the only game in town that I'm aware of and there very expensive, but highly worth it and recomended!
 
I know a few things about them, not a whole lot.



Torque, HP and economy are basicly the same as the "LA" version. A freind of mine gets 20 MPG's out of his Poly 318 on a regular bassis. He also has the Hwy gears @ 2.94 The engine can go hundreds of thousands of miles so long as you keep the fluids and filters fresh and changed out regularly.

Performance wise, you'll need to go to Racer Brown for a cam shaft. The pattern of the shaft is different on that engine.
Intakes can be found only used. 4bbl. and dualquad intakes are out there in factory flavor or after market aluminum style.
The poly also uses a bunch of "LA" parts as well.


Timing chain and sprokets, oil slinger, valve springs and seals with the best of all.....crank shaft, though the rear flange is different, year dependent, theres some weirdness going on there with it, I'm not to up on it.

But you can add a 4 inch stroke crank to the poly 318.

Pistons can be ordered easy enuff for it. Custom domes will run ya big bucks.

Heads can be done up OK. There not big flowers of sir. A split duration cam should be used with about 8-10 degress of extra duration to help the poor flow.

You can use a modern tranny. (Overdrive!) if you address the possible weird crank flange. The attaching bolt patterns are the same for the tranny to block.

It will also use the "LA" distributor, so if you wish, a MP distrib. can be used or a Mallory, MSD, accel, etc....can go in there.

Headers by tti are the only game in town that I'm aware of and there very expensive, but highly worth it and recomended!

Thanks a lot man! Yeah I did some research on those TTI headers..they are expensive. I think they were $550-$590!! It's a cool looking engine, and the fact that very few people seem to take interest in it make it more appealing... We'll see. I've got a good LA360 now..but the poly is tempting. Your right about the bellhousings too, totally the same.
 
To repeat myself...

The worst thing about a poly 318 is that after you beat a Ford or GM, the loser won't stop telling you and everyone else that you have a big block.

I used to hunt brand new Monte Carlo SS's back in the day, with my (1?)80,000+ mile almost bone stock poly 318 66 Coronet.

Even though it had a tiny 2 barrel carb, almost everyone that got to see under the hood said it had to be a big block cause no 318 could ever beat the 350 I spent a thousand bucks building. Look how big it is. Oh, and it says "440" right on your fender.
 
I do not remember how much heavier the poly is.

There a little more expensive to build and they'll take some time to do so. Hunting down parts isn't so easy for them sometimes. As in.. you realllly want the factory dualquad set up. There very hard to find and most people want a small mint for them.

The headers are dang near retardedly expensive. However, if you try and build your own, the price dosen't seem so bad.
 
Several years ago a article was in Mopar Muscle on a Dick Landy Enterprise built poly 318 that made over 420 HP. Try a search and you may find it. If you look in a 64ish Factory service manual you might be suprised. Poly 318's came with 10 to 1 compression, Full floating wrist pins,Steel crank, Solid lifters, Etc.. very torquey engine even with that tiny 2 bbl.
I'm in the same boat as you on what to do as 6 years ago I picked up a 64 Belvedere with all intent on pulling the poly and installing a 500 inch big block that I have sitting in my shop.While at a event a vendor had a new in the box Weiand 4bbl intake so I picked it up. Installed it with a 600 Eddy AFB and a set of dual exhaust.Guess what? the big block is still sitting on the floor. That thing runs so dang good I just don't have the heart to change it. I really want the TTI's for it but still in the back of my head I'm gonna put the big block in it.
 
Try looking at/through Mopar Muscle mag for an article. Builder/Author Gary Pavlovich.
He built a stroker Poly that cranked out 400-400+ HP.
 
I'm currently building a 318 poly for a 1965 Satellite. Here is a good link:
www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/poly318.html

Contains articles by Gary Pavlovich, interchageable part list, and other links that might be helpful including Ram Racing Engines. Bill Richardson with Ram Racing Engines helped me alot with parts and a good guy to deal with.

Gary Pavlovich is also very knowledgable and helpful too.

Dick Landry Enterprises will modify aluminum poly intakes to accept a weiand 174 blower.

Also, 94 Dakota mini starters will work to help with header clearance.
 
Last I heard they are still in business
 
from the link I posted


DLI is no more.

Dick Landy Industries (DLI) was CLOSED.
We did NOT sell the business.

Landy Automotive Products is NOT
affiliated with Dick Landy.

Someone is trying to pass off their
products as Dick Landy's.

If you are looking for VW Supercharger.
If someone tells you that you
can buy a NEW one it is fraud.

The only superchargers with
DLI name on them are used.

Dick Landy's family may start
selling them again, but not at this time.

Once they are for sale again you will be
able to contact us through this website.
 
As hard as I try to talk myself into putting the original engine back into the Charger I just can find any practicle reason to do so. And since I don't have the money to build a nice poly I think I'm just going to stick with my 360. Which sucks, cause I'm one of those guys that loves to do what NO one else is doing.. This is the main reason why I don't drive an LS powered '68 Camaro. The poly is an awesome engine, but unfortunately parts simply take too much effort to find. My main priority is fuel mileage AND performance, and all the articles I've read of course focus on one thing, Horse power and torque rattings. And from what I've read, the Poly 318 gets the same MPG's as the 360.
 
Take your time and super charge it with a mild cam for the best of both worlds
 
Granted, there are not a ton of people that mess with the A-318 but there are several who do and the parts will show up once you start digging out the people that do mess with them. Just Google search 'poly 318' and lots of sites show up....
 
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