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Post up facts and things that hardly anyone knows...... (for entertainment purposes only. NO need to fact check)

5he people who built Titanic never said she was unsinkable. That was press clipping hyperbole.
And if the guy in charge on the bridge that night had done what he was SUPPOSED to do, the Titanic would be no more famous than any other liner, cause she would have MISSED the iceberg!
 
33 IMP said:
5he people who built Titanic never said she was unsinkable. That was press clipping hyperbole.
And if the guy in charge on the bridge that night had done what he was SUPPOSED to do, the Titanic would be no more famous than any other liner, cause she would have MISSED the iceberg!
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What was he supposed to do?
 
It has been said that had they hit it dead straight, they may have only breached 1 or 2 compartments and stayed afloat. As it happened, turning and grazing the edge of the iceberg caused several compartments to be compromised.
 
Kern Dog said:
It has been said that had they hit it dead straight, they may have only breached 1 or 2 compartments and stayed afloat. As it happened, turning and grazing the edge of the iceberg caused several compartments to be compromised.
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Well, I suppose that's a valid opinion, but was he SUPPOSED to aim for it, or try to avoid it? What was the textbook correct course of action, given that about 50 seconds passed between the lookout sounding the bell, and the collision?
 
Photon440 said:
Well, I suppose that's a valid opinion, but was he SUPPOSED to aim for it, or try to avoid it? What was the textbook correct course of action, given that about 50 seconds passed between the lookout sounding the bell, and the collision?
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  1. Total Reaction Time: Combining the initial turn time and the steering gear delay, the total reaction time for the Titanic’s steering system was estimated to be around 40-45 seconds.
Maxwell Smart....
"Missed it by that much"....
 
Photon440 said:
What was he supposed to do?
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Titanic was a three screw ship, with the rudder behind the center screw. ( contemporary opinion is that she was WAY under-ruddered). The two outboard engines were reciprocating, exhaust powering the center turbine engine.
What he SHOULD have done , according to the seamanship "bible" published in 1910, was reverse the port engine, full ahead on the starboard.(also applicable to a two-screw ship). It would have kept the turbine running, the center screw working, and the rudder effective.
INSTEAD, he "jammed on the brakes", full reversed both reciprocating engines, which SHUT OFF the center screw, and blocked the rudder from doing much of anything, and........ the ship didn't answer the helm, hit the iceberg and sank.
Oops.
Edit: actually "grazed" the iceberg, put a few small holes in the first five compartments, a couple more than she could have survived
A continuous big gash like most drawings of the Titanic, she would have gone down in ten minutes, not two and a half hours.
 
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If this is true, it is interesting.....

"87% of the world lives in the northern hemisphere, and only 13% of the world lives in the southern hemisphere."
 
Photon440 said:
Perhaps partially because there is twice as much land mass in the northern hemisphere?
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Yeah, but 87 to 13 isn't a 2 to 1 comparison. By that argument, the numbers would be closer to 66/34.
 
"Perhaps" and " partially" doesn't sound like an argument, more like potential reasoning. Also ending with a question mark.
 
home to almost 40% of the U.S. population, coastal areas account for less than 10% of the total land in the contiguous United States. Coastal areas are also far more crowded than the U.S. as a whole; population density is over five times greater in coastal shoreline counties than the U.S. average
 
Rod Serling's favorite 'Twilight Zone' episode was "Time Enough at Last."
 
33 IMP said:
Titanic was a three screw ship, with the rudder behind the center screw. ( contemporary opinion is that she was WAY under-ruddered). The two outboard engines were reciprocating, exhaust powering the center turbine engine.
What he SHOULD have done , according to the seamanship "bible" published in 1910, was reverse the port engine, full ahead on the starboard.(also applicable to a two-screw ship). It would have kept the turbine running, the center screw working, and the rudder effective.
INSTEAD, he "jammed on the brakes", full reversed both reciprocating engines, which SHUT OFF the center screw, and blocked the rudder from doing much of anything, and........ the ship didn't answer the helm, hit the iceberg and sank.
Oops.
Edit: actually "grazed" the iceberg, put a few small holes in the first five compartments, a couple more than she could have survived
A continuous big gash like most drawings of the Titanic, she would have gone down in ten minutes, not two and a half hours.
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The "under ruddered" theory has always been there, but in sea trials she steered as intended. Also, the sister ship Olympic had the same sized rudder, her captain claimed that it was "the most maneuverable and responsive ship he had ever had the pleasure to command."

There's no actual evidence (despite happening in the movie) that the engines were reversed. The only person to claim that was an officer who wasn't even on the bridge until after the collision. The leading fireman actually in one of the boiler rooms later stated that they received a STOP order, including the red light indicating such. The engines were still running, they had only started to shut the ash doors when the ship hit the iceberg.

Now, if the reverse order had been given, not much would have changed. If the engine crew were aware of and expecting a reverse order, it would still take 90-120 seconds to accomplish, and would have happened well after the collision. Not expecting it meant that it would take longer.
 
The first fatal plane crash occurred on September 17, 1908, and it involved the Wright brothers. A Wright Flyer crashed during a military demonstration flight at Fort Myer, Virginia. The right propeller of the plane came in contact with a guy wire, causing the plane to crash from an altitude of somewhere around 65 feet. The crash killed the passenger, U.S. Army Lt. Thomas E. Selfridge, and seriously injured the pilot, Orville Wright. Selfridge became the first person to die in an airplane crash and the first active-duty member of the U.S. military to die in an airplane crash while on duty. He was also the first Army officer to solo in a powered aircraft. Wright suffered a broken leg, several broken ribs, and an injured hip. He spent seven weeks in the Army hospital...

The Wright brothers, by the way, had promised their father that they would never fly an airplane at the same time for fear that they would both die in the same crash. Incidentally, neither died in a plane crash. Wilbur died in 1912 at age 45 from typhoid fever, and Wilbur died in 1948 at 76 from a heart attack...
 
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