RO 23 Hood scoop

[thebankerstoy]

Hello Bankerstoy, What wheel size and backspace do you have on the rear of your coronet. Thanks

The American Racing Champ 500 wheels that are shown in the pictures above during it's restoration back in 1990 were 15 x 7 on all four corners, but I don't remember what the back spacing was.

The Weld Draglight wheels are part #90-57348 and are 15 x 7 on the rear with a 4 1/2" back space and the front's are part #90-54342 and are 15 x 4 with a 2 1/4" back space.

Jegs has the rears under their part #927-90-57348 for $209.99 each

front's are Jegs part #927-90-54342 with a list price of $195.99 each.

http://www.jegs.com/p/Weld+Racing/746346/10002/-1

When I was drag racing the car, I ran Mickey Thompson 26x10.5 x15 Sportsman Pro drag radials's on the rear and Mickey Thompson 26x7.5 x15 Sportsman Front Runners on the front.

Now that the car will be back on the street, I'm running B.F.G. P235-60R-15 Radial T/A's on the back and B.F.G. P185-60R-15 Traction T/A's on the front.

The pictures of the car without the race decals are with the B.F.G. street tires and the two pictures with the decals are with the Mickey Thompson drag tires.

Richard

 

[1badstroker]

Thanks bankerstoy for the information.

 

[alleyoopmgv]

good website for these and older b-bodies and other stuff too. http://www.kramerauto.com

 

[63hemipolara]

In conversations with former Ramchargers driver and NHRA record holder and race engine engineer Mike Buckel we have talked a bit about hood scoops. They did proving in wind tunnel tests that the 1st gen hood scoops like mine:

did absolutely S.F.A. Only helped give the car the race look. The R023 was better but still not really effective. The only ones that they saw any real results was the scoop off the Hurst Hemi Darts and Barracudas. They found the best induction was a cowl induction like in NASCAR application and that is why NASCAR uses it to this day. Now there are other manufacturers that make the original style hood scoops with increased heights that make them work better. I have seen my style with a 7" height, you would start to get more of a look like this:

So from this, do you want it to work (68 Hurst Hemi's) or do you want it to look cool and period correct.

As Mr. Buckel passes on more engineering tests I will be sure to share them with the list.

 

[69 Runner]

The scoop that was used on the 69 1/2 cars worked pretty well cause it was up off the hood and the barrier layer. Also the T/A scoop (lifted and inverted from the belly of a P-51) was maybe the best of all. I also read somewhere that Mopar figured out you had to have at least 30 square inches of opening for it to do you any real good.

 

[eastsider]

racer brown in maryland aslo makes them

 

[thebankerstoy]

I'm not sure who makes them, but I do know that someone is now making a 5" high version of the WO23 and RO23 scoop that wasn't available back in 1989 when I bought my orginal style 2 1/2" tall WO23 scoop.

My personal opinion is that I don't think that the 68 and up style hood scoops look very good on the pre 1968 B-Body cars. :no:

Richard

 

[1badstroker]

I prefer the era correct scoop on the car. The wrong qne for the wrong era looks out of place.

 

[66_B_Body4ever]

Thanks 63hemipolara,
good info, beautiful car and cool graphic rendering. My first choice is period correct. Performance counts of course, I may modify mine to grab a little more air. I have a picture of a modded one in a magazine, I will dig it up and post it. I will check out Racer Brown's site. BTW, who did the graphic of the Polara, its very cool...
Cheers and Merry Christmas.

 

[66_B_Body4ever]

Here is a modded ro23, not my cup of tea but another example.

 

[66_B_Body4ever]

Thanks Alleyoopmgv, sent Kramer auto an email requesting pricing for the RO23 scoop, will advise when he corresponds.
Thanks.

 

[1badstroker]

I was looking at Kramers website the other day and the catologs are not up and running. They are suppose to have a couple different heights on the scoops they are going to have. Let us know what they say when they respond.

 

[66_B_Body4ever]

They emailed me and said they are out of scoops right now as they are looking for a new fiberglass guy...they will contact me when they have more stock. The price was 295.00 for the RO23. I'll keep looking, Merry Christmas all!

 

[63hemipolara]

Thanks 63hemipolara,
good info, beautiful car and cool graphic rendering. My first choice is period correct. Performance counts of course, I may modify mine to grab a little more air. I have a picture of a modded one in a magazine, I will dig it up and post it. I will check out Racer Brown's site. BTW, who did the graphic of the Polara, its very cool...
Cheers and Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas,
the guy who did the rendering is the most talented guy I have ever met. He lives in N.C. and can be contacted at this email address: [email protected] His rates are VERY reasonable and his work is phenomenal as you can see. Tell him Steve with the Polara sent you. :grin:

 

[1badstroker]

Merry christmas and a happy new year to everyone, there familys and the hotrods!!

 

[thebankerstoy]

Here's a 66 Coronet convertible that's currently for sale on ebay with 1968 model year tail stripes and 1969-1970 A & B-Body dual hood scoops that illustrates what I mean when I say that even though the tail stripes and hood scoops look awesome on the cars that they were designed for, I don't like the look of either one on the 66-67 B-Body cars. :no: Just my opion though.

Richard

 

[66_B_Body4ever]

Here's a 66 Coronet convertible that's currently for sale on ebay with 1968 model year tail stripes and 1969-1970 A & B-Body dual hood scoops that illustrates what I mean when I say that even though the tail stripes and hood scoops look awesome on the cars that they were designed for, I don't like the look of either one on the 66-67 B-Body cars. :no: Just my opion though.

Richard

I second that one Richard, ruins the flow of the car...

 

[440brew]

VFN sells the 3" and 5"!

http://www.vfnfiberglass.com/site.htm

 

[66_B_Body4ever]

Thanks 440 Brew, I have emailed them inquiring about shipping and purchase. Prices are decent.