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Rust Remover Recipe

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Has anyone tried this mix to clean/de-rust stuff? I'd like to dunk a pair of intake manifolds in some kind of homemade cleaner and see what happens.

One liter water, 100 grams citric acid, 40 grams washing soda (sodium carbonate)
 
My homemade rust remover consists of a gallon of Molasses and 7 gallons of water. I buy the molasses at a farm store and use a 20 gallon tote with a cover for the liquid. I cover it because it stinks up my shop. Toss in what I want de rusted for a couple weeks then rinse em off with water. It don't remove grease but does a good job on rust.
 
I would NOT think adding the washing soda (a base) to the citric acid solution to be ideal. You want the solution to remain acidic to do it's work.

Strong bases, like NaOH (sodium hydroxide) are also effective on rust. Just not in the same solution as the acid. As most of us know, mixing an (arrhenius) acid and a base makes for a neutral salt solution.

Your mixing ratio is about right. I use 1 pound per 5 gallons, and that works out close to 100g/L. I've also used vinegar (the typical 5% solution off the shelf) with good success.

All of these solutions will likely act on the paint, but they all produce a cleaner metal-looking result, compared to the phosphoric acids found in many rust treatment products.
 
Has anyone tried this mix to clean/de-rust stuff? I'd like to dunk a pair of intake manifolds in some kind of homemade cleaner and see what happens.

One liter water, 100 grams citric acid, 40 grams washing soda (sodium carbonate)
I did and it's amazing.... just watch out for the exothermic reaction.. i added too much at one time and had to mop my garage.. it foamed up and got everywhere...
 
The guy in this video did the work on figuring it out.. and explains how and why it works.. plus it works in hours.. stuff lasts a long time too
 
Has anyone tried this mix to clean/de-rust stuff? I'd like to dunk a pair of intake manifolds in some kind of homemade cleaner and see what happens.

One liter water, 100 grams citric acid, 40 grams washing soda (sodium carbonate)
I'm doing this science experiment this weekend on some rusty 1935 ford parts. So far It seems to be working well getting the rust loosened. I mixed up a quart in a gallon container, glad it was able to contain all the foam so no mess. And NO bad smells. The second part is in the mix so I'll check it later today.
 
I'm doing this science experiment this weekend on some rusty 1935 ford parts. So far It seems to be working well getting the rust loosened. I mixed up a quart in a gallon container, glad it was able to contain all the foam so no mess. And NO bad smells. The second part is in the mix so I'll check it later today.
What's awesome is this stuff lasts a long time too.. evaporust is like 2-3 times then stops working well
 
Rilshi is correct. It will work even better without the baking soda and it won't foam up either
 
I case you didn't know or missed it, the last ingredient is not baking soda.
Sorry, sodium carbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate, my mistake. Both are weak bases which eat up some of your citric acid (which is what removes the rust)
 
A pure acid (dilute solution) will act on both the rust (ferrous oxide) metal, as well as the underlying (elemental) iron we hope to retain. If that's your goal (and I admit, that was my thinking) then leaving out the washing soda is the way to go.

I just watched the VERY compelling video. I believe my goal needs revision. To remove the rust, wile leaving as much of the underlying metal as possible.

I may have to give this formula a try. According to the youtube author, not only is the washing soda making the solution LESS acidic, so it's less aggressive to the base metal, it appears the resulting salt (chelated) solution is still active, acting more on the rust than the elemental (pure) iron.
 
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Sorry, sodium carbonate instead of sodium bicarbonate, my mistake. Both are weak bases which eat up some of your citric acid (which is what removes the rust)
Both will accomplish the same thing. The video author even offers mixing directions when using either/or.
 
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