Schumaker motormounts be aware!

[69 GTX]

Be aware of the terrible quality of these mounts. The hole for the .5 bolt is .700 and off center! I made a bushing to take up most of the slop. These should have been lasered & CNC bent. Looks like the holes were plasma cut free hand. I would not buy these again!

 

[Mopars & Missiles]

I hope you have contacted Schumacher with your concerns. What did they have to say about it and did they make it right?

 

[69 GTX]

I did not. On something this bad I'd probably have to pay shipping wait 2 weeks and then get the same stuff back. But I guess I will call them before I weld anything. I'll call them shortly and see what they have to say. Just very disappointed in their quality control.

 

[69 GTX]

Just got off the phone. He said they are plasma'd and in his words a little crude. He said to send him a email with pictures so we will see what he has to say. I'm leaning towards sending them back for a refund. Curious to se if I'll also get my shipping refunded...... Also only rated to 600hp and he recommended a torque strap too.

 

[69 GTX]

I cut the head off a bolt to show how bad they were.

 

[69 GTX]

So I just got off the phone, Mike said that it was purely cosmetic, and no impact on function. He did state that he didn't realize they were that bad. But he would refund my money if I ship them back with the receipt. I did just about lose it when he told me to shut up though. He didn't want to refund the shipping charge of 15$ that they charged for shipping. But did finally agree to refund that also. It will be the last time I deal with them. You can make your own conclusions. I just hope I can find my receipt!

 

[khryslerkid]

That's not good at all. Especially if they don't line up. Should be plug and play.

If you used a bank or credit card, you receipt of your transaction is recorded.

Good luck

 

[69 GTX]

True, I'm sure I still have my CC statement!

 

[Mopars & Missiles]

Wow, I'm really surprised that they treated you like that. At least you'll get your money + shipping back. I agree that is pretty shoddy work, I've used their torque strap kit before and thought it was a decent kit. Thanks for the heads up on the lack of quality on these, you'll save someone else the pain you've gone thru.

And you did the right thing by calling them and giving them the opportunity to make it right, even though they made it rough on you. Absolutely no reason to tell you to "shut up". That's just extremely poor customer support. Seems all the companies now a days have forgot all about the #1 rule of business, "The customer is always right".

 

[65hemi]

A buddy had a similar issue with the mounts for his hemi Coronet. I seem to recall that the issue was resolved promptly and Schumacher sent him a new set.

 

[69 GTX]

I just got the feeling from talking to him the next set might be the same. I guess we all have different standards. I would not want my name on something of that quality, if you pay a Rolls Royce price you don't want a Yugo, even if it functions properly Ok I'm done, time to move on.

 

[Cornpatch MO]

I wonder if there has been changes with that company? I got my motor mount adapters from them a few years ago, and was quite impressed with their quality and fitment. ...........................MO

 

[Rick62]

Are these mounts functional as is? Is this strictly an appearance issue?

 

[moper]

Not sure what the opposite side ear looks like on those and I'm not a big fan of Schumacher anyway. But factory B/E body type mounts have a larger hole on one side, with a welded nut on the other. The OEM bolt has a wider head (like a forged in washer) and it goes through the wide hole, through the K-frame, and then into the welded washer. Once the bolt is torqued the size of that hole has no importance. Allowing for proper driveline alignment and easy of assembly does. There is not enough precision in the factory design to allow for a .500" hole for the .500" bolt. so there's some slop built in. Remember these are production line, slammed together cars. Not aircraft.

 

[69 GTX]

Depends on your definition of functional, if you mean oversized holes, the bolt not going through the mount parallel to mounting surface then yes they are functional. Again I bought these under the premise that the were better than stock issue, they are not. The problems that anyone can see in the pictures above. Anyone with half a brain should know that things that don't line up put additional stresses in places. Supposedly these are "High Performance" pieces. I interpret that to mean built to a higher standard. Again for the price they ask I would expect more. I should of bought the stock ones for 15$

 

[Rick62]

Yikes!! I just asked a question. I didn't expect the insult....sorry...

 

[69 GTX]

Sorry I did not mean to insult you. Again not aimed at you.

 

[moper]

I have more than half... You're pissed, I get it. My point was you're complaining about something that by design, if it was "better", wouldn't fit 50% of the production chassis out there because they are not that good. As for engineering - the bolt does not have to be parallel. It has to squeeze the ears against the K frame hard enough to hold things in place. In doing so if the ears bend, or the Krame bends a little, it's not considered a problem. It's that simple. By "high performance" they mean the flexible parts don't rip apart. They are not billet machined and made to aerospace tolerances. The area that counts (the "rubber") is made of better stuff. Not to higher standards than the factory stuff. The torque strap was/is a joke too... leas the E-body one. I hope the full-brained types don't fall for that advertising... lol.

 

[69 GTX]

Funny thing is he recommended a torque strap just in case. I will just have to improve them to fit better. I never intended to offend anyone here, again I'm sorry.

 

[moper]

If you have the improved mounts, you are probably ok unless you've got a ton of power with stick, deep gears, and slicks or racing tires. Leave hard enough and stick the tires and you can break almost any factory type non-spool-type mount.
If the strap is the type with the bracket that comes off the front mount ear of the block, and the strap bolts to that - skip it. I had customers years ago that "had to have it" because they had stock type mounts and were drag racing. Every single one broke because the power is pulling against the bend. You can fabricate something better, or go lo-buck and use some chain and a turn buckle from the local hardware store. That's what my race cars have had. I never broke them.

edit - no offense taken. I've got 30 years of these cars. Long before there was a mopar aftermarket. So sales pitches tend to bounce off me. Truth is when they were designed and made, they were not loved as they are now. The intent was to sell, keep them easy to assemble as cheaply as possible, and to have them keep together past the warranty and payment period. Mopars have some of the best powertrain engineering of their time even if the body/finish quality was poor. Our "enthusiast" expectations are high, as are the investment(s) in them. So there's potential for disappointment when the expectations are not realized. But that doesn't change the intent of the original design.