Stellantis Brings The HEMI Back !!

[multimopes]

I've wondered about that and pondered as to why.
Maybe the buying public felt betrayed with the switch to EVs and just stepped away from Dodge as a result?

In my case, (and probably quite a few folks), it might be because one of them costs more than all the cars I ever bought added together!

 

[AR67GTX]

Good Question Photon440

Will Ram use the Titan v8?

Some of the tooling discussion starts around post #10. There are claims the line was scrapped and turned over to Hurricane engine production.

 

[Photon440]

Good Question Photon440

Will Ram use the Titan v8?

Some of the tooling discussion starts around post #10. There are claims the line was scrapped and turned over to Hurricane engine production.

I read your link, thanks.

I don't doubt that they might scrap the tooling, but how will they maintain warranty supplies? By law, they have to provide parts for the term of the warranty, which is usually five years. The law doesn't say that they have to make or stock the parts; proper aftermarket items are acceptable. But who makes aftermarket engine blocks? What about the 345 crate motor that Mopar sells? I had thought that all versions of the hemi were produced on the same line, so some tooling should still be in use.

As for the I6, I had also thought that it was built on the old Tigershark facility, since that 4 cyl. engine production shifted to the Dundee plant in Michigan.

Tim Kuniskis said just this month:

"Even if you said let’s do it, we can’t do it right away," said Kuniskis about shoehorning a HEMI in the engine compartment of the 1500. "I didn't say you can't do it... you can't do it right away." According to Kuniskis, the 2025 and newer 1500 features an electrical architecture that isn't compatible with the 5.7-liter HEMI.

Click on the link "we can't do it right away" for the whole article.

 

[AR67GTX]

I’m not disagreeing with you. In fact I’ve been questioning a lot of these same stories. After all, it is the Internet. Chrysler is probably trying to figure out how to most gracefully dig themselves out of the Hurricane mess. They spent a lot of money developing these twin- turbo engines for RAM and they in fact out perform the 5.7 Hemi in some aspects. And so far we aren’t hearing of any mechanical issues, although engine management software and chassis wiring harness defects seem to be rampant. But they have a big image problem. Some buyers are open to the twin turbo 3.0 six, but more are not.

 

[Triplegreen500]

I want to drive a hurricane. I love my 2.2 turbos and my Cummins and my ecodiesel. I love boost. And every 4.0 inline six I've had has been freakin' bulletproof.

People should give this thing a chance.

 

[MarPar]

I’m not disagreeing with you. In fact I’ve been questioning a lot of these same stories. After all, it is the Internet. Chrysler is probably trying to figure out how to most gracefully dig themselves out of the Hurricane mess. They spent a lot of money developing these twin- turbo engines for RAM and they in fact out perform the 5.7 Hemi in some aspects. And so far we aren’t hearing of any mechanical issues, although engine management software and chassis wiring harness defects seem to be rampant. But they have a big image problem. Some buyers are open to the twin turbo 3.0 six, but more are not.

Im open to a twin-turbo 6, just not in a pickup.

 

[Nxcoupe]

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I think the same but the story is the 5.7L (1500 size) Hemi tooling has been scrapped and no longer exists. A number of threads have discussed this on RAM forum. Sounds suspicious to me but the 6.2 (supercharged) and 6.4 Hemis (2500 RAM and some Jeeps - still in some production) do have different bore sizes and stroke combinations so it’s possible some tooling unique to just the 5.7 was pulled and scrapped. The 5.7 L has the smallest bore of the 3 Hemi classes. But I do remain somewhat skeptical of this story that they no longer have the tooling necessary to build the 5.7 L Hemi.

I wouldn't think so when you have 3 years worth of hemis out on the road that you have to warranty the engines and have replacements readily available. I believe as fresh as the end of the hemi was, most of it is still in place for the time being. Jmho.

 

[Nxcoupe]

I want to drive a hurricane. I love my 2.2 turbos and my Cummins and my ecodiesel. I love boost. And every 4.0 inline six I've had has been freakin' bulletproof.

People should give this thing a chance.

No thanks.

 

[DeltaV]

Just kiss the RAM 1500 goodbye and look at the 2500 or 3500 models. Ouch on the sticker price though.

 

[Nxcoupe]

I’m not disagreeing with you. In fact I’ve been questioning a lot of these same stories. After all, it is the Internet. Chrysler is probably trying to figure out how to most gracefully dig themselves out of the Hurricane mess. They spent a lot of money developing these twin- turbo engines for RAM and they in fact out perform the 5.7 Hemi in some aspects. And so far we aren’t hearing of any mechanical issues, although engine management software and chassis wiring harness defects seem to be rampant. But they have a big image problem. Some buyers are open to the twin turbo 3.0 six, but more are not.

There are mechanical issues. And they are difficult to work on.

 

[Triplegreen500]

Im open to a twin-turbo 6, just not in a pickup.

Turbo six Cummins does great in everything from pickups to motorhomes to OTR semis.....

 

[DeltaV]

I'll probably have nightmares tonight...

Also, the oil filter location is interesting.

 

[Triplegreen500]

Also, the oil filter location is interesting.

...on the bottom...?

 

[DeltaV]

...on the bottom...?

I'm thinking access will be restricted by the k member, steering rack, and suspension.

 

[RemCharger]

As a mechanic having to diagnose or work on that is a nightmare. Plain and simple.

 

[Triplegreen500]

I'm thinking access will be restricted by the k member, steering rack, and suspension.

Looks like it would be behind it to me. Flat face of the oil pan, forward of the filter, looks like k-frame/rack location to me.

As a mechanic having to diagnose or work on that is a nightmare. Plain and simple.

Everything new is a learning curve.

There's a reason we don't drive model T's anymore.....

 

[RemCharger]

Looks like it would be behind it to me. Flat face of the oil pan, forward of the filter, looks like k-frame/rack location to me.



Everything new is a learning curve.

There's a reason we don't drive model T's anymore.....

Agree. But I work on new **** everyday and it sucks. All kinds. Do you?

 

[Dave6T4]

It doesn't even look like an engine.

 

[RemCharger]

It doesn't even look like an engine.

It's basically 20 yr old VW technology. With a Toyota straight 6 mix. Hopefully all the plastic pipes don't disintegrate the first time you try to check anything at all

 

[RR Fan Dan]

I'll probably have nightmares tonight...

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Also, the oil filter location is interesting.

That thing looks like Alien.